Just had a chat with my dealer who is in to remapping and he told me that the Multi has firmware that detects if the bike has been remapped by other than Ducati. It puts a flag on the system which invalidates the warranty from Ducati. Also any future updates will overwrite the remap. Big brother is well and truly here it would appear.
I'm not really surprised by this. Ducati shouldn't have to pay out for a lunched engine when the owner has put a 3rd party map on. I imagine most cars & bikes are the same these days.
I've heard this before and had a car that the factory dealer told me did the same (set a flag for a non-OEM flash).
Disagree - This is common in automotive and many other industries in this digital age. I'm surprised they didn't do this sooner as it's very simple to implement.
Not sure what they couod do about it. Post block exemption, the onus of proof of failure due to non manufacturer product used is more with them than the repairer
It'll appear in the ECU as a stored file, depends if they go out looking for it really... My experience is that they won't unless they have reason to. If the dealer updates your software it will overwrite the remap. Manufactures can be funny about it, most dealers don't care as time is money and they get paid for warranty work.
I have had an Audi remapped they could not tell with software it was mapped, that was their comment, only by driving it did they know, although a couple years ago, also lots of warranty work completed too. A remap does not automatically mean warranty is void, though every manufacturer is different. Ducati's it seems are quite hard to improve with Power commanders, quite pointless I have been told, as for other maps I can not comment. Like all hacks they also can embed codes to stop detection.
Your modifications will only void the warranty if they are deemed to be linked to the failure of a particular item or area. For instance, if you remap and you notice corrosion on the bike, no problem. If you map the bike and it goes pop however, it may cause you some problems, especially if the factory request the ECU. Many re-mappers have warranties themselves though let's remember... I have heard however that Ducati can be funny with warranty. Although they have their obligations.
PC is fine, and in theory would be untraceable as its a piggy back and the ecu remains entirely intact. If worried, that would be the route to follow, you will get great results but not quite the best
They would if they knew what they were looking for mate. Many tech's are a bit clueless with anything eobd lol.
The Mulit's key alone will flag up a lot of things to a dealer if its anything like the keys used in cars these days.
Many cars also 'talk' to the company's HQ via GPS and bluetooth. I wouldn't bet against the DVT having this sort of tech bearing in mind its bluetooth compatible. Like it or not, there are many disadvantages to go with the advantages of the latest high technology.
I'm not sure we are at this stage yet in terms of mainstream vehicles. Certainly some specialties do have the facilities to feedback running data. I wouldn't however be surprised if we see this technology on a wider scale in the not to distant future.
Isn't that what BMW's ConnectedDrive system already does? BMW Teleservices | Breakdown & Support Services | BMW
Hiltop in Leicestershire guarantee there Ecu flash cannot be detected and if by chance they go looking it auto reverts back to stock, he also states dealer updates can be done but it won't overwrite his software, he also offers a money back guarantee.
Consider this. The multi now has an app thru BT that gives lots of data, to the point its reading the 'theoretical' bhp being used Data then transmitted back to Ducati Open sim link, foc to Ducati....
Is it really quite that simple? I always thought any new maps automatically over writes the old map and the only way it can be reversed is it reload the old map back onto the ECU.
