:tired:Just incase no one noticed the exhausts on 959 due to the euro 4 emissions , euro 5 due out in 2020 I was told all bikes must be put back to standard to mot or will not pass . So will older bikes be very sought after . Modifications markets sale will plummet anyone know any thing about this ? Are bikes as we know it doomed !
Yeah I've been hearing this also, basically the bike will need to be as it left the factory mechanically and also the engine emissions are going to be massively tighter so the 959 will likely be over 1000cc but making less power. I was having a chat with my buddy in the pub saying that I felt the 675r I had and the 899 are the very last of the middleweight sports bikes that I like before it all gets very euro 4, he was saying that his mate at work who is 10 year older than us says that all the 'modern stuff' now is well past it and his idea of the last of the non euro crap stuff is 2003! So I guess it's perspective, I'm 31, the 21 year olds out there are sure to just grow up with Euro 5 and will love them for what they are... Now, where's my pipe
this is where being owned by V.W could deffo be seen as an advantage. emissions? air quality? pah! feck em.who needs clean air? :smileys:
They will have to produce Euro 5 compliant kit too. Don't aftermarket parts fitted in Germany have to be TUV approved by law?
So me thinks my 1299 is gunna be a keeper if that's the case , no hardship thou loved its first season fuckin brilliant , will update suspension in due corse , standard cans and power more than enough so probs leave as is
theres always a way round these things. Some testing stations will put another bike on the emissions tester when its your bikes turn. Simple. Until the ministry are cctv'ing it anyway. They already monitor the mot in progress via computer. cnts
The MOT will be largely irrelevant in the real world. We all have ways of passing it with a friendly bike shop. Problem will be if you get pulled by plod or VOSA. What will they do, fine us or worst case seize the bike?! Emmisions regulation on bikes is daft. We are one of the lowest pollution contributors around. Better to get rid of a couple of thousand cows than our exhaust pipes.
I'd be very surprised if any tester was willing to do that. That's a very quick way to ruin your business if you ever get caught.
Sorry, I will be more clear with such a statement. My garage puts another vehicle on the emissions machine for such tests.
Furthermore, roadside testing will not prove anything. Small electronic faults such as air temp, coolant temp, oxygen sensors all fck up the fuelling, and send emissions through the roof. All the authorities can do is keep throwing salt on the roads to ruin last decades vehicles, to keep us in modern stuff thats tightly regulated and eventually black boxed. Only the old surviving stuff will get round this conspiracy! 1199s Tucked up for the winter...........ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Battery bikes, I've got a BMW i3 and that is one of he most fun and easy to drive cars I've ever had. Range is short, but loads of fun. Roll on silent bikes capable of 200MPH, then shove your noise objections up your Jo public!
If anyone is interested in some actual facts, instead of vague panicky waffle, try these. Euro emission standards for petrol cars: Carbon Monoxide – Euro 4 – 1 ppm Euro 5 – 1 ppm Euro 6 – 1 ppm Hydrocarbons - Euro 4 – 0.1 ppm Euro 5 – 0.1 ppm Euro 6 – 0.1 ppm Nitrogen Oxides - Euro 4 – 0.8 ppm Euro 5 – 0.6 ppm Euro 6 – 0.6 ppm Particulates - Euro 4 – no limit Euro 5 – 0.005 ppm Euro 6 – 0.005 ppm Somehow I don't think any petrol vehicle manufacturer which manages to meet Euro 4 will struggle much to meet 5 or 6, especially since at the present rate of progress it will take another 10 years to get there. Diesels are the problem area.
