Got round to dismantling forks on new bike takeover. The left hand slider is worn with a noticeable flat (it must now be quite thin); it appears to me the cabling tie is as original, but the armoured brake hose has caused this wear. From the photo below, is this the right way to run the cable with a tie? I can't believe it. Also, does anyone have an odd Marzzochii fork slider they would be happy to part with? I don't like the way this one is.
That's not the slider........that's a shroud for want of a better word. Cable tying a braided hose to it was asking for trouble....there shouldn't be anything cable tied to the forks at any location. Brake hoses should be 'clipped' to the front of the bottom yoke. Sorry, not got a spare one.
Thanks for your kind reply. I'll get it clipped to the yoke as it should be. I'll rebuild these with new seals and meanwhile look out for a replacement shroud for next time. John
Does the cable clip fit into a hole in the bottom yoke at front? Also, are the forks same as 750 ss forks?
The forks should be the the same as the 750 (usually Marzzochis non-adjustable).......I will take a pic to show you how the hoses should be, although mine has been modified a bit.
cheers Aquebus. I found a 40mm l/h fork off a 75 ss for sale from France for £65, probably best to get it as a replacement it straight away. The picture will be useful - appreciate your kindness. John ps here's a quite nice picture of a cosmetically modified 600 ss (tyres, tank and seat): Ducati Super Sport 600 | By Marco Artizzu
If you look at the bottom yoke, you should see at least two M6 threaded holes in the leading edge.....there may even be three - If you look at the diagram below you can see how the hoses are clipped back (on a twin disc set-up). Item 28 is the 'clip' which bolts to the yoke and the clip holds rubber grommets in place around the hose - Item 40 is slipped in between the hose and the grommet.....I can only guess it is supposed to protect the hose from bending under braking - with the braided hoses on mine I left them out as they don't appear to bend at that point anyway. If you need to make one, it seems you will only need a one sided clip......it is about 20mm deep. I'll get the photo later.
Thanks.................saved me taking a photo........... PS......Mine are stainless steel.................because I made them and because mine were as sh*ttier than yours......
Easy enough to make........take a 20mm wide strip of stainless steel between 1.5 and 2mm thick, bend it round a socket at each end......allow enough room for a fixing hole in the middle. The grommets should have a lip at each end to stop them falling out, but just stick some suitable tubing into the clip. You will have to split the grommets to put them on the cable.....stick the join back together, then stick them in the clip.
Here's mine (the OEM one was a double clip, but in one piece) I made mine as singles because I thought I might have them on individual holes in the yoke..........as it was they were better together.
I see the locating holes for the clips. Good stuff those fashioned clips of yours. Sure I can route them nicely now... cheers guys. I ordered a replacement shroud too.
I have one of them, and some rubber grommets - it was the items labeled 40 that I don't have, and you don't seem to have either. They are on corrosio non forsit's image. Should a 600SS not have a single sided disc brake? has this been converted?
I have the OEM bits labelled 40 and I also made them in stainless steel.......I didn't use them with the braided hoses because they wouldn't stay in place....as far as I can tell they are to make sure the hoses go backwards under braking, but as my hoses do that anyway, I could be bothered to try to keep those item 40 in place. But I'm not parting with them - they are part of my spares.
An excellent thread for helping to get to grips with the problem. It can also be worth paying particular attention to the shape and 'set' of the banjo that mounts on each caliper. Some aftermarkets hoses have a banjo shape which is not sympathetic to the route it takes up towards the handlebars regardless of how they are tethered on the lower yolk and this alone can be responsible for them rubbing on the fork housings. Stuart @Torquepen and I have similar Monsters now and it took a bit of careful studying side-by-side to work out why one was rubbing and the other one wasn't.
As you can see from the hose in my pic, my braided hoses aren't the plastic covered type, even though they are Goodridge Stainless ones...........that's why mine have clear plastic spiral binding around them in the areas where they might touch.