So everybody gets a fuel gauge sender replaced under warranty, everybody clicks yes in the poll, now the bike is deemed "unreliable" . it means nothing, except to bolster the constant complaining of a very few
Agreed. Not to mention warped disks and weeping forks. These are all problems that have occurred since 2010. Do you not think 6 years of motorcycle development should result in fixes! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
FFS you're sounding more like a 14 yr old girl whose just split up with her first ever boyfriend each day, quit fkn whining and move on
14 year old girl hasn't ploughed tens of thousands on a phoney "premium brand" [emoji6] I'd forgive her a little moan if she had. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I take it you've never owned any other "premium brand" products before if you believe that they are some how inherently perfect. This is nothing new. If you want the fastest, shiny-est toy on the block, you do it with the knowledge that you'll be visiting the dealer sooner or later. Did you really think you were going to buy a bike and ride it into the ground without ever having an issue? Do you really think BMW, KTM, Guzzi, MV Agusta, Triumph, etc are going to have less issues? I'm afraid you will be bitterly disappointed with whatever you get next. You should go buy a Super Tenere if you want a boring bike with the reliability of a brick.
I just don't see that they are any more premium than the jap competition nowadays. They've all got the latest and greatest electronics, they all cost about the same. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I agree. My low mileage mts has a new fuel sender and seat replaced by the dealer proactively. Just bought the bike two months ago and now has 3500 miles. I certainly wouldn't call it unreliable due to recalls.
All brands should be reliable whether premium or not. I've owned Hondas and Yamahas that never went to the dealer other than for their service. My Ducati on the other hand was never out of the dealers.
And the multi is as reliable as most if not all brands. Maybe Ducati are better at admitting things need replacing? BMW still um and ar about s1000rr gearboxes but it's a common and known failure point. One that stops the bike working, not is just an inconvenience
My Super Tenere was reliable but boring as a brick. My MultiDVT is fecking epic. GS - bit breathless and tends to fall apart. XR - too low geared, vibes, 2 cylinders too many. KTM GT - fantastic but more sports than tourer and unreliable fuel range. You pays your money and takes your choice.
In the early 80s I had the chocolate cam issues with a vf750 and bottom end with a cbx550 which Honda quickly jumped on (VFR -gear driven cams, that's how to engineer a solution) other than that in the last 30 years ( most Honda's and ZZR1400 before coming to Ducati) the only time I have ever gone in to a dealers other than for a service was to have a Reg/rectifier replaced ,,, that's all. Not a bad record for the jap bikes, that's reliability. They obviously test to destruction the parts before signing them off, where as it appears that Ducati use us as beta testers having bought batches of parts and just fitting them (fuel sensors, old dash etc) don't get me wrong I love my DVT and I am now on first name terms with all the guys at the dealer as I visit so often . Jap bikes don't hold the same appeal as the DVT but sorry the quality of parts is total sh't for a brand that is at the premium end of the market, emperors cloths!!!! I,m guilty as I don't see anything else that appeals, now if Yamaha fit their 1000cc cross plane engine to the MT Tracer then I might be off if problems persist and warranty runs out. Until then fingers crossed I can pile the miles on, off to Spain/Portugal for 3000 trip soon, interesting to see how it performs.will update whilst I there
There's a lot of comparisons with BMW's and the problems they have. I'm sorry but I just can't see them replacing known faulty parts with the same parts and hoping they either A)don't come back in the warranty period. B) Just don't come back. If you've got a brilliant dealer that carries out all warranty work without question that still doesn't help the fact that each unnecessary visit to the dealer is a pain in the arse and I don't have time for it. Also my first warranty visit is booked and the dealer wants to charge me a tenner a day for a loaner. They have fitted a known faulty part to my bike and now they want to inconvenience me and charge me for the privelige, really ?
Just sounds like you want to excuse Ducati no matter what, and are willing to put up with any inconvenience coming your way. If you are willing to put up with it, then good luck to you. But Ducati are having the last laugh and won't change while there are so many customers willing to put up with the "inconvenience".
Ducati seem to spend money on bits that matter: engine technology, suspension, brakes and skimp on fasteners and other boring stuff. IMHO the only exception is the screen on a dvt. Great screen but skimped cost and will cost them more.
