It the same article M&P describe themseleves as M&P's website describes itself as "Europe's largest motorcycle parts and accessories company as a I said a proper company. Anyway there going back tommorow , and I'll buy the same pair back from Busters not ! LOL
But you don't want to pay the appropriate price for that first class service, which is why you went to M&P...right..?
No, you cannot conclude that. I buy off the internet cos it's cheaper, fully aware - unlike some it would seem - that I cannot expect the same service.
The tyres on my dads 16h are the ones it came with 45 years ago and they were old then M&P do cheap pairs because they are often old stock. If you ride at 10 tenths all the time then worry about dates and buy full price new tyres. If you are a tight arse that trundles around at half what a tyres can do then use M&P
Remind me why you bought an old 'style' Bridgestone tyre anyway? Most manufacturers update their ranges almost annually as technology advances.
That would work fine for me. It would be fitted, used and in the gash by March. As a supplier, they dont know how long you are expecting to use the tyre over, so it would seem fair to sell it as its still well in date. Some folk who do a 1000 miles a year could argue that they only want a "brand new" tyre as they will never use them up within 5 yrs.
Since I educated my customers on the unknown to them date stamp on tyres it's all they ask there is no reason why the tyre can not be used and will perform as well as a new BStone if shopping around you can't say what year tyres you will get and even if from the UK importers that keep 250,000 tyres on the shelf it's a lotto to what years you will get.. The answer is buy current latest spec tyres and pay the price, I have no problem buying the latest tyre at current prices as I expect them to give me the best they have to offer to help me and my pride and joy stay butter side up.. You will find also not all makes of tyres are date stamped!
Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. However, I'm sorry to say I don't think you are justified in dissing M&P for selling these tyres, and I would have thought they are correct - there would be no come-back on them in the event of an accident. There is (quite rightly) no legislation that says tyres can only be sold up to a certain period before the expiry of their warranty. As others have pointed out above, there would be no point in introducing such an arbitrary additional date when people use their tyres at dramatically different rates. Under the distance selling laws you are within your rights to just send them back. If you are worried about the date of manufacture next time you want to buy off the internet then you should contact the vendor before you buy and ask them about it. I do this if I buy a helmet but hadn't thought about it with regard to tyres - so thanks again :smile: I hope you get it sorted to your satisfaction.
Because they were "cheap"?? :wink: Fk buying cheap tyres, even my wanky diesel clio gets some good rubber on it, its the only thing keeping me out of hedges??
I buy "cheap" tyres. Inasmuch that they aren't the latest and greatest tyre on the streets, but they were 12-18 months ago... Some good deals to be had IMHO. Not saying I'd buy whoflungdung remoulds but...The very tyres on your bike that maybe the latest marketing trip from Pirelli will be out of vogue in 12 months...Does that make them any less of a tyre? Peace...:biggrin:
I'm with sim900sl on this. The ever creeping tide of shit customer service should not be condoned by anyone, whether its from the 99p store, your Ducati dealer or Harrods. Simon may be more or less justified in his view depending on your attitude towards where/how/when tyres are good to use or not, but it is nevertheless his view that he has presented to M&P that they have largely disregarded as much as he may have dissed their handling of the issue. It is not entirely unreasonable to be surprised at receiving a 4-year old tyre - whether it is still good to use or not and I will bet that no-one reading this thread fails to check for date stamps on their 'new' (or even current) tyres in the future. I have 2 triangluar profile (o-l-d) race TT100s in the garage, kept in a large zip-lock plastic bag that are as fresh and tacky as the day they came out of their moulds and would not hesitate to use them for the purpose they were intended if I had anything with a 19" front wheel, however, now we all understand each other a little better, what I would not do is offer them to Simon! I'm also with Simon on this because he has raised a great point of debate. I've dumped tyres before now, as I'm sure many here have done, because they didn't feel right and for me that's what it boils down to - what gives you confidence and what doesn't, so if Simon wasn't going to feel confident on those tyres he'd have been mad to fit them.
The people saying that the op has no right to complain because the tyres are cheap (or cheaper) have missed the whole point he is trying to make. He is saying that they sold tyres at the very end of their warranty period. Only if this was made clear when he paid for them then you can bring the price into the discussion, simple. And talking about price in general - just because something is cheaper does not mean you should expect less of a product and just because you pay more don't assume you are getting a better product. If you do then you are part of a group generally referred to as 'suckers'. Happy riding everyone!
I understand your concern/annoyance, but as far as M&P are concerned they are " in date". There isn't an inbuilt self destruct system in tyres which means that at 5 years and one day they implode leaving your bike on the rims and a gooey rubber mess on your garage floor. The downside of short date is that you have no comeback for a manufacturing fault once warranty has expired. I had a rear Michelin, latest and greatest at the time, de laminate on a motorway within six months. Tyres were still well within date etc, but Michelin would only meet me half way as they had been on the bike six months and had,( in their words), "been used", so warranty isn't worth dick. Question is where do you draw the line ? Reject tyres with 18 months left 'cos you think it will take you two years to use the tyre ? Contact Bridgestone and see if they think its an issue ( obviously depends on storage conditions). If the manufacturer says that its an issue selling tyres that have been stored that long you have extra ammo to go back to M&P/trading standards
Im thinking his beef is over should he spend £39.98 on a tyre with 9 months warrenty left, or the same on a tyre with 4 years warrenty left, which is a valid point? I can't say I would have got quite so irate about it and splashed it over a forum - maybe if they had refused to take them back, which they havent?? (Confused)
It means deficiencies not apparent at the time of purchase are not excusable just because the price is lower. But I think you knew that
The trouble with an attitude like that is that eventually companies like M&P will cease trading or up their prices to a point where it isn't worth bothering with them, because everyone wants something for nothing. Then everyone gets to pay full price for everything, all the time. Is that what you really want?
