Is it a big job to remove a full termignoni exhaust / air filter and ecu ? Thinking of fitting my standard system back to the bike, incidentally what is this package worth on the 2nd hand market as I haven't seen any for a guide line.
The unit has been on the bike for 2 years but I guess the problems if any lie in the exhaust studs ? I am not really a fan of aftermarket things so I am going to take my bike back to standard and to be honest its a little to loud for me . I might weight until the bikes 30k service and get corner speed to do the job at the same time unless I find myself with a spare weekend .
I put an Arrow system on mine and I had no problems with the header nuts. Just use some WD40, let it soak while you remove the other bits and pieces, use a tooth brush to clean the stud threads and undo....no problems.
Cheers guys, may give it a go myself if I get time, the header nuts on my bike don't look to bad but a good soaking wont do them any harm weather I do it or get it shipped away to get done. Cant seem to find any you tube vids on the job though so without actually investigating I am not sure how much of the bike needs stripping down to get full access.
There is nothing to it. Remove the belly pan sections. Undo the bolt holding the strap to the pillion hanger. Remove the spring holding the silencer to the headers then pull the silencer off. Undo the connectors to the front Lambda sensor, you will need to fit the sensor to the standard exhaust header. Remove the bolt securing the centre exhaust section to the dogbone on the LH side and remove the spring holding it to the rear header stub. Undo the nuts holding the front header to the horiz head. Everything is now loose and with a bit of wiggling the headers should come off. Refitting the standard exhaust is more or less the reverse process but it will depend on what has been done with the exhaust valve cable. If it has been left in place it's just a case of re-fitting it. If it has been taken off you may have to gain access to the servo motor to attach it at that end.
Thanks Derek for taking the time to post that, just got all my original exhaust and components out the shed, I will order the gaskets I need and strip it down methodically. I am hoping the cable is in situ. This is one of those jobs that would be a pleasure on a bike ramp . I haven't got one :-(
If you need to get into the exh valve servo, the easiest way is to remove the side panels at each side of the seat then loosen the 4 bolts retaining the rear subframe. Take out the bottom 2 and pivot the subframe backwards away from the frame. This will give you room to access the motor which is mounted behind the RH frame plate.
On 2013/2014 bikes it's a case of swapping the codes over on the 'Upmap' key, not changing an ECU. Effectively reloading the standard map on the bike and putting the Termi map unlock code back on the key. I would guess a secondhand Termi system without a working upmap key would be worth quite a bit less as it would then require a remap. Shame you weren't selling it a few weeks back as I would have been in the market and I'm probably not far from you - but I've just bought one. A good condition low mileage system with key should fetch £700+
Mine is a 2011 bike, it comes with full system/ air filter/ecu and new footrest hanger for silencer support. On this model it is just a case of swapping over the ecu. I am actually looking forward to getting the standard system back on the bike ( I must be an odd one) as its a little to noisy for me
My mistake, thought you were selling a later bike. I'm looking forward to getting my system on - hoping it's not too noisy - but it might be a week or two yet as I'm planning on getting the headers coated first.
Leave it as it is, why put that huge cat back on and choke the engine, it's breathing far better with the setup you have.
Finally done, the termi came off very easy within an hour, did any one mention I had to remove the centre stand :-( . Non of the bolts where tight, in fact I would call them slightly loose. The exhaust servo cable was neatly tie wrapped up and even had heat shield over the end to stop corrosion . Did anyone mention the ecu ? Holy sh£t that thing was awkward to get off, I googled a site that takes you through removing it without removing the tank but in hindsight it would of been quicker to remove the tank . Then I get to the air filter which says remove tank :-( . Fortunately another google has the filter changed without tank removal. Fitting the original collector box system is also time consuming but apart from putting the seat back on cleaning greasy hand prints she is all done and I like it better than the termi, although I have yet to ride it There is just one thing and it might be a BIG thing, the picture below is of a component from the box with all my original system in. For the life of me I cannot see where this would fit and it is not shown on any schematics. Please tell me I do not have to remove the hole system again.
I've got both systems-original, and full Termi that I replaced it with, and haven't got one of those bits at all...
That's very good to no, it must be a component thrown in the box and not relevant to the bikes standard fit. Thanks for the reply.
Good to hear you got it done with no problems. Mine hasn't got a centre stand - I forgot about that, sorry. The left over bit is the baffle for the Termi which looks like it has never been fitted.
If you're thinking 'oh bugger, if that bit I just found was a baffle for the Termi, would that have made it more acceptable on the noise issue for me'.....then don't worry. The baffle makes sod all difference to the sound of the Termi. For me, I prefer the performance the Termi gives, but I agree, they are rather 'fruity' (even more so when you chop 135mm off the length of the end can). HTH Deaks
