Because whoever it is has reset everything. TC doesn't have to be on high in wet. Ignore the names, you can change all of the same settings in each if you want. You can have no DTC and full throttle response in Wet if you want. Exactly, the DTC acts as a crude wheelie control because it is cutting power. I think you're confusing yourself, because you just explained above how it can work. Also, there isn't an anti-lift on the rear wheel. you have a reverse of the anti-wheelie you were talking about above.... The wheel won't lift with abs on because the abs cuts in and let's the brake off. The (1) setting just turns the rear wheel abs off, but has nothing to do with wheel lift directly (just means you might be able to lift it because the ABS ignores the rear wheel speed, and allows more braking force on the front without releasing).
I hasten to add, I'm not trying... im trying to ride it quickly rather than ponce about. So just under hard throttle, not doing anything else, it will only lift with DTC off. It is quite possible it may lift with it on if you are actively trying to wheelie, but I've never seen the point, so I don't.
I'm only joking mate, under hard acceleration in first the front comes up no worries, as it does in the power band in second also. Race and sport.
I'm not confusing Myself no. With ABS on 3 and 2 the abs doesn't allow the REAR wheel to lift under hard braking. On 1 it will allow the rear wheel to lift and only controls the front from locking right at the death. The ABS system has got nothing to do with the front wheel lifting. The bike doesn't have anti wheelie control There's a good explain for each setting in the instruction manual Any anti wheelie the bike may have is a by-product of the TC measuring front and rear wheel speed. The bike doesn't have potentiometers or suspension travel sensors. Also I know you can change each setting. The post said some one used wet for wheelies - not wet with X, Y and Z changed. In default wet it won't wheelie...
It is off if there is a - next to the DTC indicator and I believe there TC light stays on yellow. I've not turned mine to 0 so couldn't say for sure I use mine in 3 or 4 as the system gets confused over white lines and bumps sometimes and it comes in abruptly of its any higher in my opinion Bike rides MUCH better with ABS 1 and TC in 3 and EBC in 2
I didn't say the ABS has anything to do with the front wheel lifting. I compared the reasons the front doesn't lift with DTC off as being a similar mechanism to why the rear won't lift with the ABS on (just in reverse). I know it does not have anti-wheelie control, and commented that the DTC will stop it from lifting the front wheel in high setting purely because it will cut power sooner (something you have said twice now, so are presumably agreeing with me whilst disagreeing with me?.... Hence why I questioned if you were confused... ). Not that I want to poke you any more, but if you do read the manual it does say the rear can lift in 1, 2 or 3....
Poke away. Please read your manual though regarding rear wheel anti lift page 78 of owners manual 1 Race - exclusively for track use and for expert riders (not recommended for road use). The ABS in this mode only works on the front wheel )preventing it from locking), while there is NO CONTROL ON THE REAR WHEEL, THE SYSTEM DOES NOT CONTROL LIFT-UP. To the OP - So to clarify it doesn't have anti wheelie, if you turn TC down to around 3 however, it does allow the front wheel to come up though and if you turn ABS to 1 you lose combined braking and rear lift up but the brakes are better in 1 I find.
Sounds like a challenge.... P78 is about the lap timer, but if you go to P63.... ABS 1 - .....does not control lift (as you say) ABS 2 - ....ALLOWS a few controlled lifts ABS 3 - controls MOST of the lift-ups So progressively it reaches a point where MOST (not all) lifts are controlled.... So I wouldn't rely on it controlling lift. One absolute difference is that on 1 it loses ABS on the rear wheel. (And yes, I was being pedantic and trying to wind you up!...)
Even in race mode the systems are too high IMO. The abs in anything higher than 1 ruins the bike - I hated the combined front/rear brakes. Makes the bike stand up trail braking. Also a couple of times over white painted lines or slights bumps the TC kicked in so abruptly it nearly put me over the handlebars as it stopped accelerating so severely.
I did a track day and on the 1st session I forgot to put it into abs 1. I found the bike so stable on braking I left it in abs 2 for the hole day. So I had cornering abs and linked braking for the full track day. Should have clarified mine is a 1299, not sure if the modes are different, if no then ignore me and I'll climb back into my box!
the 899 doesn't have cornering abs. I would tend to agree with the above though that the system does stand you up when pressing on. It feels as if you're fighting against it, which ofcourse you are.
