British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Best bike I ever owned was a gixxer 750 k7 and I have no doubt I will own one again.

    You will find many opportunist companies blaming Brexit for putting prices up and those afraid, have the google bug. That is where everyone expects results within a milli second. Brexit never was about the next few years but was always about the better after those next few years.

    Any company that takes the micky during this time will not see me spend money with them and I suspect quite a few feel the same.

    Another point that has been mentioned, we are not the manufacturing country we once where as we seem largely to be going tech and medicine. That however means we are a great buyer of other countries goods and as a spending country, other countries do want our cash and we have a lot of it through spending power
     
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  2. only provided the pound stays strong surely
     
  3. The UK has the engineering and tech graduates. It has the skills, always had. The EU stripped the Country of it's manufacturing and of course the politicians allowed it to happen.
     
  4. Brand loyalty to a point, take the piss, people should walk. The UK needs a sense of unity.
     
  5. Completely agree but how can you have a sense of unity when certain sections of the working public are being demonised by the tories? (not to mention the huge north/south divide)
     
  6. dude. how can i put this? most of it is total bolox maybe?. sorry i just could think of a nicer way of putting it. :Sorry:
    take a wee read of this. championed by thatcher and Reagan.
    Neoliberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  7. Wiki my ass.

    You saying the Uk doesn't have skills to manufacture?
     
  8. Thatcher stripped the country of its manufacturing base, not the EU.
     
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  9. in one
     
  10. Yes because a sound bargaining strategy with the EU would be to tell them beforehand what it is we are, and are not, prepared to do during the course of negotiations.

    Brilliant. If only eBay was like this. "For sale, used Bampot, asking for £200 but will accept £95.50". Solid.
     
  11. of coarse not. but does it have the desire? to much easy, untaxible money to be made in finance. i think it was glid that recounted a story last year about a friends daughter scoring a first in engineering but went off to work in finance. that appears to be more normal than not.
     
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  12. There are very highly paid jobs in finance and graduate Architects are paid peanuts. The Germans put engineering way above the medical profession. I believe in their model.
    Yes, people go on about innovation etc, but that needs funding. I'm not a great fan of multi national corporations but I see they need to be consulted, but they also need to commit to an economy.
    This idea that we will leave the U.K. if this or that happens is bull. It's needs to stop.
     
  13. Tell me something, was Maggie pro or anti EU?
     
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  14. Big companies will do what is right for them and their shareholders. They will show no loyalty to anyone except themselves. If they are faced with tariffs that make staying in the U.K. uneconomic they will leave.
     
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  15. And there is the reason for change. We all know the ethics of corporations moving profits and costs around the world. What point is there begging to corporations to stay in the U.K, if the profits are already leaving. What is the UK getting, employment?
    Corporation tax, no one pays it, simple. Vast profits disappear, but joe public keeps paying.
    And how is these profits justified? By how much they get away with charging? Anyway, taxing on profits is all wrong.
    There is a balance, but allowing ourselves to get ripped off isn't the way forward.
     
  16. No matter, I will be riding a lexmoto in 5 years
     
  17. How will leaving the EU change that? The EU is the one body that has challenged the moving of profits abroad. Our Government does nothing.
     
  18. Daily Express just prints what they want people to read. It's not news but made up lies.

    Meanwhile the pound sinks ever lower.

    And the even the Treasury reckons the U.K. Could be £66 billion a year worse off under a hard Brexit. That's about 1/10th if all Government income.
     
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