British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Its a good point. When you have labour MPs asking at PMQs when a no fly zone will be enforced, and this Russioan planes shot down, it tells you times have changed
     
  2. Apart from Croatia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Denmark, Malta, Luxembourg and Ireland (the later 2 possibly bolstered by corporation tax exploiters) the same conversations will take place throughout the EU. Regarding elections, there are several coming up, not least in Germany and France. The UK had one - you know the result?
     
  3. You'd be better off buying Honda/Nissan anyway as they are better made, better value and more reliable than the blinged tat that Audi/BMW/Merc flog...:grinning::grinning:
     
  4. + cyber attacks in a number of western countries, nuclear missiles being deployed in the Baltic, massive civil defense exercises and a potential permanent Russian port in Syria - not good.....and potentially, a little more disruptive than Brexit.....

    Was this the real background to Frau Merkels recent announcement that German citizens should stock up?
     
  5. Funny is isn't. The reason the Canada trade deal has taken so long is because individual states have refused to agree it. The Canada deal is now on the brink of collapse because one region in Belgium won't agree it because they fear cheap imports. The Belgium govt cannot approve the deal by Belgian law without agreement from all 3 of its regions. An EU- UK trade deal won't happen before we leave the EU.
     
  6. So you are saying that remaining at the heart of an anti-competitive and economically declining superstate is by far the better option?

    Have you even met the EU?
     
  7. Canada's trade of goods and services with the EU is around €90Bn. The UK's is over €570Bn. But don't let scale and common sense get in the way of naysayers...

    And Belgium's surplus with the UK is around €8Bn so feet and holes comes to mind?
     
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  9. The value of goods has sweet FA to do with it.

    If one state says no, the deal doesn't happen. We have more to lose than anybody in this as we are talking about the whole of the UK trading with the world, both in and out. The idea that the world will come running to our door desperate to do a trade deal that favours the UK first and foremost is ludicrous. We are talking about politicians making and agreeing the deals, not business leaders.

    When have politicians ever worked on common sense terms?
     
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  10. OMG
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  11. You have no answer then.
     
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  12. Mr J o'B is
     
  13. lol he may well be but that’s not really the point is it?


    “Get me out of the eu and its beaurocratic laws that are running my life”


    “Which laws are they then?”


    “I have no idea but my lifes been ruined”.


    Etc...
     
  14. I hold the a different view about the merits of the EU as I see few.

    Regarding the World, what are your reasons that they're not ready to increase trade?

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  15. No, we can rely upon the Germans to act in their own interests which is to ensure that trade with the UK remains tariff free.
     
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  16. Which countries would you increase trade with? Are they on the other side of the world? You can be certain they are not as close as Europe.

    Why are we not trading with these countries now if they are so desperate to buy what we have?

    Who would lose out by us trading with them?

    The countries that lose out may have other bargaining chips with the Rest of the World that they can use to prevent it happening.
     
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  17. So Germany will decide on a deal for the whole of the EU? And the rest of the EU has no say?
     
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  18. Which just goes to show the idiocy of certain Labour MPs. Emily Thornberry at least understood that the idea of enforcing a no fly zone against Russian airplanes might not be such a good idea.
     
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