British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

?
  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. both
    :Hilarious:. Oh dude. i wanted exe to go frantically checking google to see what smart arse answer he could invent
     
  2. What's Google? :smileys: ,,,,,,,,,,,,, :Cigar:
     
  3. its the place you to go to wreck yer eyesight.
    like you didn't know.
     
  4. That's Skype you nutter :Angelic:
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  5. hmm, squirt with skype.
    dirty exe dirty
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. Doh..:Banghead: :Bucktooth:
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Even if that were so I'm failing to see your logic

    The countries that have banned them have done so independently of the EU, as such what the hell has it got to do with us leaving the EU?

    If it's not an EU law that they are illegal, then simply put any country in the world can take it upon themselves to ban them

    I agree that they should be banned, but let's not blow smoke up the arse of the EU because 'some' countries have taken it upon themselves to make the change.

    How about we sit and say how bad the EU is for not banning them outright?


    That and the fact Michael Gove has absolutely nothing to do with the negotiations or planning of our exit from the EU...,unless I'm missing something?

    Isn't he a former cabinet minister? I didn't know he held much sway nowadays since most people found his antics post result quite off putting
     
    #3968 damodici, Nov 17, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2016
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. I often see " Europe protects workers rights in a way the U.K. would not" How many people saying that, know that when building the the new building for the ecb (European Cental Bank in Frankfurt Germany) at a cost to the EU of $1.4 billion dollars, the EU insisted and stated in their contracts that there was to be non union represented workforce only to be used?

    An article by the new statesman on workers rights in the EU

    The EU doesn't protect workers' rights - it has destroyed them

    BBC review of the claims
    Reality Check: Does the EU protect workers' rights? - BBC News
     
    #3969 noobie, Nov 17, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2016
  9. looked more like a dig a corbin tbf
    bbc fact check? i read and listen to the bbc facts getting presented every day, particularly on a Thursday, when they play edited clips from FMQ's or debates. sturgeon under pressure this, sturgeon embarrassed that. 99.99% of the time its rooth davidson leaving with her tail between her legs, dugdale in tears. and renny left looking like the irrelevance he is. not to mention the propaganda by omission
    if you (not you, the majority that get most of their info from there) want people to make decisions on the future of the country based on that level of info then batter on.
    an ex employee is returning from Canada in January after a year and a half of v.good pay. but. 2weeks only payed holiday, expected to work every hour his boss demands (same for his girlfriend and her parents that all moved out at the same time) after he has payed this or that service that we get for free and take for granted over here he is worse off. good for me as he starts back in February. a tory looking after lower payed workers rights? aye, go on, pull the other one.
     
  10. Makes you wonder why people want to work in the uk if workers rights are so poor here I suspect they are considerably better in the uk
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  11. Watching the Interpreter film last night. One pertinent point made in that fictional film - 'there are no such things as countries anymore, only Companies'
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. That pretty much sums up the EU, which is why so many in the UK voted to leave and why millions more across Europe are determined to get the chance to do so.
     
  13. I think this is the point many Brexiteers keep pushing, if our country was so crap, why have and continue to do, even more so with Brexit coming, Do Europeans continue to come here and want to live here?
     
  14. Black market work!

    But regardless leaving the EU will make the UK an expensive place to live.
     
  15. Its not an 'EU' thing, its a world thing.

    Look at who funds the Tory, Libdem and Labour parties.
     
  16. And while we are on that, many of the right wing parties are funded by Putin and Russia but i noticed that point was ignored by all yesterday.

    Do you really want Putin calling the shots in Europe?
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. Some one will always be calling the shots, they always have been. However what Brexit and Trump has shown is that from time to time, genuine everyday people get a chance to have a say and when they do, it starts to get quite fruity.

    Sure Putin is trying to destabilise the west, he's pissed his country has sanctions and he knows he is dealing with a world that talks too much and acts too little

    But the same could be said for George Soros who is funding the anti Trump riots in America and some of the destabilising with radical groups in Europe

    But I feel sometimes we give them too much kudos as their impact is more imaginery and fear than actual effectiveness.

    The old saying of keep your friends close and your enemies closer comes to mind and I would rather Trump and Putin were buddies keeping each other in check than how we are now. Imagine that, Russia and the west getting on, O how I remember those happy days.
     
    #3978 noobie, Nov 18, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2016
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. They want to earn money at UK rates and send as much of it home as they can where it will be worth 5 or 6 times its UK value. If you come form an eastern European country where £1 in the UK is worth the equivalent of £5 locally, you only need to work one day extra out of five and send the earnings of that one day's work home to effectively double your income.
    I'm sure millions of Brits would love to be able to go to another country and do the same job they're doing now, with a higher standard of living while they're doing it than they currently enjoy here, and be able to fund a mortgage back home simply by working a Saturday. But they can't. There is no other country whose currency is worth 5 times the value of Sterling and if there was no government would be crazy enough to allow millions of UK workers unrestricted access without currency controls to its jobs market driving down wages and stripping out the cash economy. That's why the traffic is one way.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. I'm sure that is a large part of the migration of EU nationals on the lower skilled jobs gimlet.

    But the U.K. didn't just happen to be the lucky one, that happened because we all worked at it and over decades, some may say hundreds of years.

    It is easy to understand why third world countries want to come to the western world and perhaps the U.K. more than most BUT and I emphasize it as a BIG but, if the EU was a genuinely an equal organisation of 28 countries, then we would NOT be getting so much one way traffic from other European countries.

    Britian's success, highlights the EU's failure of the other 27 countries. but in the finest tradition, lets beat up the countries that have made it work and hope they do not look at at the organisation that failed the others.
     
    #3980 noobie, Nov 18, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2016
Do Not Sell My Personal Information