He was Britain Stronger in Europe’s Chief Campaign Spokesman and previously served as Nick Clegg’s Press Secretary as a Special Adviser to the Deputy Prime Minister during the Coalition Government His organisation Who we are - Open Britain
It is twats like this who are too clever by half who distort the "facts" to suit their argument irrespective of the truth that piss people off about "modern" politics, unfortunately they are not confined to one side of the debate. The line between spin and outright misrepresentation is becoming increasingly blurred.
world ecconomy grew hence the dilution yip. are you suggesting the rest of the uk wont want to trade with us? especially if we can retain some kind of link to the eu. there is also talk of the Scottish exports that leave from English ports that doesn't get compiled in the Scottish figures, i haven't seen any proof of this tho so possibly just blether. i will ask honest john the next time we meet.
Are you suggesting the EU will let you do your own deal without the EU controlling what you can and can't do if you leave the U.K. and Join the E.U. ? We do agree that the EU only allows deals with non EU countries that have gone through the European parliament and all 28 members have agreed. Do you see Scotland on it's own in the EU, being able to take on the other 27 countries and the head table of the EU to make deals of their own with the U.K.? I'd say no, the EU will stop you doing deals with us should you leave us and join them.That could put at risk 64% of your income that comes from the UK We will make deals with anyone because we can, there will be no free trade restrictions for us, what about you? Let me add this if I can. Most with a positive attitude do see a way of making this work between us and the EU However some point to the Canadian deal and given some want to punish the U.K. can I ask, should you leave the U.K. and join the E.U. could you survive financially the 7 years it might take you as an EU country to do a trade deal with us? Your biggest market and two thirds of your wealth gone? It wouldn't be the U.K. taking away your trade but the EU stopping you from trading
how can i see scotland in two years time when May hasn't got a clue about the next 4 months?. one thing i am sure of tho is that if Scotland decides to grow a pair we will do ok at a minimum.
which ones? orkney and shetland? its a bit like the catalonia question. there would be a lot of constitutional issues. you forgot about the way the uk is set up.the uk is two nations joined by a contract as such. contracts can be broken or annulled. but like anything, they can campaign, show competence and all that. maybe make a deal if thats what they want.
My understanding was that both the island voted strongly to stay in the U.K. and voiced strongly they did not trust Holyrood with their business I remember this before the vote Scottish islanders seek votes for own independence| Reuters and this earlier this year MSP calls for "real debate" on independence for Shetland | Press and Journal
did they?, while its always been a strong liberal seat. carmichail the fibber (frenchgate, the truth only came out after the GE) won with only a 800 vote majority. that was before the brexit vote. they voted to stay in the EU despite having quite a beef with the EU over the fishing quota. i think they are getting the message it was westminster that traded it away (dispensable i think was the word) to safe guard londons financial and service sector. so, i guess time will tell.
I wonder how they feel now that we are coming out so EU quotas will no longer apply and Sturgeon wants to stay in and keep them? I must admit I wasn't
My words, like most things that go north of the border, seem to have become peculiar. Funnily enough, I suspect 2 events will decide how brexit goes, The German and French elections.
i would love to agree with you here loz, but i just know there's a trick up yer sleeve. :Shifty::smileys:
heres a nice we article. as if we didn't know already. ironically written by a jurno. https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/11/why-journalists-love-twitter
Certainly in the printed media and printed online media, it is embarrassingly obvious that most journalists seem to be little more than non qualified journalists who are or used to be bloggers and base most of their articles on twitter responses This lazy type of journalism explains the old adage, never mind the quality, look at the quantity. People have become lazier too in thinking the first pages on a google search are always the most truthful instead of the most viewed.
which begs the question, where are the brexiters (and the remainors) getting their info? i post my sources up. obviously it has its own self interest, but i have watched posters get flamed for putting incorrect info up. i dont post on any of these sites. i would much rather do it on a bike forum? :Wtf:, :Hilarious::smileys:.
That was the politicians job, finm to inform the public of the pluses and minuses but they failed even more catastrophically than the journalists.
