From the European citizens i have spoken to, they cannot believe what the UK has voted for. We were in a very strong position with our own currency but being part of the EU. That is pretty much what most of them want for themelves.
You obviously haven't being paying attention. Here it is again; best possible ..........., lowest cost ........., take back control of borders ......... 17.4 million people voted for a proposition that clearly stated taking back control of our borders was a priority, the EU have said that freedom of movement is non negotiable. This gives you a clue as to the likely outcome. I fully expect to be out of the EU, one way or another, and I don't care which, before the next GE.
We still have our own currency, and if the right decision of complete Brexit is taken, then we'll also be in the position to trade with whomever we wish under seperate trade deals. I've already said, we'll continue to trade with the EU, it's just a matter of costs They however (your friends)will be in exactly the same position, quite likely worse given the fact that Italy is on its arse, Greece has been on its arse for years, Spain is falling on its arse and then when Turkey finally gets its 'free pass' (coming or he'll happily force the issue) many of the other EU members will be covering their arse. Rosey it ain't,
People found and lost jobs before we joined the EU. This has continued while we are in the EU. It is still happening now and will keep happening if and when we finally leave or not.
There will be some losers and there will be some winners. But ask that to the mass unemployed in the EuroZone where devaluation is no longer an option. It is they who are locked in a cycle of despair that can only get worse. We are leaving that.
Go round speaking to European citizens a lot, do you? Or are you talking about UK Remainians, who after all; are European citizens and always will be even when we leave the E.U. What if your business thrives and you have more job security as a result?
If jobs are lost over Brexit that part will happen very quickly but to gain employment back will take a long time if it does happen. I don't trust Government to do anything properly and to the benefit of all, they are proven to be complete losers at that sort of job.
Yet you trust the EU ? Have you looked at the economic track record of the EU since the introduction of the Euro ?
Always assuming the EU will be in the current form during the Brexit process. We can all give anecdotes about conversations with colleagues on the continent. I speak to many in the northern parts that think the UK has started a process which will be emulated by other members. As you say, it's not sustainable in its current form with the state of the finances in many member states hamstrung by the €.
As mentioned, people lost and gained jobs before brexit and will do for a long time after. Speaking of which, did you see the news on Tata Steel today? Can't say I've noticed :grin: No government, no organisation and no family can ever please all of the people all of the time, that is how humans work. The best way so far that seems to worked for most of the people most of the time is the democratic vote which is then won by the majority of those who voted. Suck it up sweetcheeks or come up with something different You could always run for parliament duke?
We still are in a strong position it's the EU that isn't it's falling apart How's about the EU wanting to do business with the U.K instead of hearing the UK wants to do business with the rest of the world What makes you think that the UK isn't investable in? The UK must have something everyone wants to come and live/work here
Woolworths closed never saw that coming the fault of the EU? Jobs are lost and gained continually When the EU has fallen apart and the factories end up back here there will be jobs depends who wants them oh hang on the local EU residents
Which is a better way of saying, if we are as shit and unable to go on our own, why are the EU desperate to keep us in? If the Eu looks at it properly, no other country in Europe at the big boys table could pull this off, Britain can. They know this and much of their public awkwardness will not be reflected in the closed doors of agreements but is done publicly more to warn others from trying an exit..
the UK is the fifth biggest economy, which country in its right mind wouldn't be investing into the UK I should imagine countries are falling over themselves to stay signed up with the UK they just don't know what hand the UK is playing and how annoying is that!
Something that seems to escape some of the most ardent remainers. The rest of the world trades without the EU's permission and many trade with the EU without being a member. The EU is not the centre of the world as it would have some believing.
Because they no longer have easy access to the European markets, a fact pointed out to May when she visited India a few weeks ago.
At least we will now get a Parliamentary debate on what is best for all of Britain rather than a few multimillionaires making the decision on their own. I wonder if the Government already know they will lose in the Supreme Court? Labour says MPs are entitled to Brexit plan details - BBC News
after 224 pages, what have we come up with? Has anyone read a post and thought " fair enough, I had it all wrong, thank you." or is everyone of the same opinion as they started with and this discussion has been pointless? don't get me wrong, I like a pointless thread/post as much as the next guy. I'm just curious as to if anyone feels they have benefited so far...
