British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Genuinely, I'm intrigued, why do you think that?

    With a country being harder to get in to would they treat it as a golden egg? A high score? Some 'one up' on their 'brothers' act in a foreign land?
     
  2. Wasn't Nicola wonderful today , such a smart girl . Didn't you just love that fetching grey suit , just so proud to have such a embassador for this fine country of ours ,,, gosh ain't those englanders jealous , with such a stick insect representing them ,,poor souls.
     
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  3. You are seriously missing the whole point .
     
  4. You are right in that I knew nothing of her until her death. But I have seen no negativity towards her since.

    So, are you saying that she was like every other MP and was only interested in herself? If she wasn't only interested in herself, then you are claiming she was the one shining light in a cesspool of 650 MPs
     
  5. OK, it appears you are still struggling with I imagined would be an elementary point. So let's take this in easy stages shall we?

    1. The quote was "We were actually the fourth largest in '92. We slipped to fifth under Blair and Brown's brilliant stewardship."

    2. What does it mean? Evidently it means that some country which was previously below the UK in the GDP rankings rose up above the UK at some point, thus pushing the UK down the rankings. So what country was it?

    3. The answer is China, and everybody knows it was China. The quote cannot have been a reference to anything other than China.

    4. The means that the basis of the quote was to make the point that China's economic growth led to it outstripping many other nations including the UK.

    5. The quote, using "brilliantly" as sarcasm, implies that the UK slipping down the rankings from fourth the fifth during the Blair/Brown stewardship was somehow the fault of those leaders; that the slipping down could and should have been avoided; and that the slippage affords a basis for adverse criticism of Messrs Blair and Brown.

    6. Hence my questions, as to whether the economic growth of China (and hence its progress up the rankings) was a good things or a bad thing; and how that development could possibly be even remotely the fault of Messrs Blair and Brown, or anybody else in the UK. The sneer at Blair and Brown appears to be utterly baseless, but the person who posted it should have a fair chance to justify it if he can.

    I hope this is clear enough now. If not, feel free to ask.
     
  6. ER no , he was actually , errantly , seizing on any possible opertunity to blame something , which evidently was not , on his political opposites, obviously oblivious to the real reasons .
     
  7. Pray tell, what is the whole point?
     
  8. Nah nah nah ,,, I fear that would take me a life time , about as long as it has taken you to hold the entrenched views that you have . Sor
     
  9. That's one way of saying nothing then :tearsofjoy:
     
  10. Precisely that. You cannot fight terrorism with a gun, a bullet and a bomb and attempting to lock yourself down. No one has ever succeeded in winning that way. Look at Ireland.

    The reaction of all terrorists to someone fighting back in that way, is for them to fight and kill harder too.
     
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    There are many ways to say nothing , you seem to excel at it
     
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  12. Finm's social club
     
  13. Has Ireland had many extreme muslim terror attacks then?
     
  14. Aye big Eck , ( Strichen , just up the road far me ) always a delight to see his claymore ( sharp wit and tounge ) cut some smart arsed English interviewer aff at the knees
    I don't think they have much of a presence in the Mid East
     
  15. its the beauty of my place, people just drop by for a chat. the copper is there most of the time helping out,(feck he talks a lot, interesting fella, like the surgeon lived all over the world) the surgeon is in and out all time, si just gets on with it. it seems we all have one thing in common, we are convinced theres a lot of...hmm... strange angry people out there.
     
  16. Nigel Farage had a lucrative job in the city where he was a successful metals trader. He left to enter the world of fringe politics because he believed passionately - and long before such a view was mainstream - that the European Project was disastrously misconceived and Britain's membership of the EU was harmful to the country. He dedicated the next 25 years of his life to campaigning for a referendum on our withdrawal. He underwent vilification, threats on his life and that of his family and accepted a substantial loss of income to pursue a cause he believed in. His persistence paid off. He brought about the referendum, won the argument and the UK will now leave the EU.

    Anthony Charles Lynton Blair had no successful career until he entered politics. He was a failed musician, a failed rock promoter and had a short-lived spell as a junior barrister. He entered politics via the greasy pole of the parliamentary Labour Party and proceeded to Prime Ministerial office from where he allowed a sociopathic and disturbed Chancellor to bankrupt the country. He destroyed our border controls in an attempt at electoral gain, did incalculable damage to our constitution and civil service through politicisation, started two disastrous wars, left the middle east in flames, retired in disgrace as one of the most reviled political figures of the modern age and then proceeded to cash in on the connections and privileges of high office to become a multimillionaire.
     
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  17. Incorrect. It was first mooted by the Conservatives but never implemented as it was considered too extreme. Then Brown came along ...
     
  18. Yep , that's Tory Blair , but what is the connection / comparison with Nigel
     
  19. OMG him
     
  20. Not comparing or connecting: contrasting.
     
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