British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. What in the name of God are you talking about?
    What is it with you Jockistanis? You've been speaking a rudimentary approximation of English for 300 years. Why are you still incapable of typing it on a keyboard??
     
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  2. Could be worse, Merkel could be the pin up girl?
     
  3. its a mixture of scots, doric, scots slang and english, many of us speak it, i wont always agree but i understand it, unlike your world view. :upyeah::smileys:
     
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  4. Prob best that you play silly bugger , Sally would not be interested in you lot
     
  5. And what is my world view? I wasn't aware I had expounded one on here.
     
  6. 2 easy view it's the only one ;)
     
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  7. from what i have gleaned on here, isolationist,elitist, authoritarian yet strangely anti government all at the same time. just my impression of yah.
     
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  8. Well not a viable one anyway
     
  9. Aye well , slowly but surely you are getting there , maybe
     

  10. No. You haven't gleaned anything. You've interpreted and jumped to binary conclusions, probably based on partisanship and dog whistle assumptions. Because I don't share many of your particular political beliefs I must therefore be a... etc etc. If I am not on your side I must be all of the things you dislike and and so off you go hanging labels.

    The truth is, I don't have a world view. I have better things to do than carry the world's problems on my shoulders and I don't flatter myself that I have the answers, or even that there are any. Those who think they have all the answers usually turn out to be a large part of the problem.

    As far as domestic politics goes, I believe power should be devolved downwards as far as possible and dispersed outwards as widely as possible. The very opposite of insularity, elitism and authoritarianism. I detest top-down centralism. Its the system we currently live under in the UK and the model worshipped at the alter of Brussels which is why I voted to leave. That is where elitism comes from. Its where authoritarianism comes from. That is why and how power is held by a feudal minority. Changing the ruling elite for one draped in my colours doesn't interest me.

    And I detest moral absolutism. The idea that one view is more virtuous and therefore superior to all others and should be adopted by all, by force of law - or worse - if necessary. That is authoritarianism and the default position of the "liberal" left: tribal loathing and intolerance dressed up as the defence of liberty and the main reason why I have never been able to support that branch of politics. I believe all views are valid, even if I don't agree with them and no subject should be taboo. And I respect the right of other people to live however they choose, even if their choices are incomprehensible or even distasteful to me, as long as they grant the same license to me. Its an uncommon view it seems, because it is one that is largely unrepresented at a political level. And that's about as far as it goes really.
     
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  11. fair do's gimps, its just the interweb after all.
    i dart in and out and in-between jobs and shit, and rarely being able to get past the first paragraph with out glazing over as i often do these days with that type of post, so possibly i is missing the point of yer stuff
    heres a wee thing i have to keep telling myself.because i can be just as guilty, this goes for you and others. including yer self 2easy, you will never ever get yer message across while continuing with the insults of which yours mine and others are laced with. nor will i be joining in with any group think attack on those i disagree with quite often.
    anyhoo. brexit
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    maybe putting in Blair at the mo wasn't the smartest move. but believe it or not i always thought Major came across as quite human
     
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  12. A very strange set of accusations there. given your wish for Scottish independance and hatred of all things Westminster.

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  14. I agree. :upyeah:The internet is a very unsatisfactory way to discuss things. The depth and and subtlety of human communication is far too nuanced and sophisticated for a dumb keyboard.
    We were designed with voices, eyes and facial expressions. Trying to communicate without them is a recipe for crossed wires and frustration however hard we try.
     
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  15. Maybe we should campaign for this forum to become independent. :)
     
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  16. John Major does indeed give that impression, but we can't escape the fact that he carries significant responsibility for the EU mess that we got into - Maastricht Treaty 1992.
     
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  17. 4 of the most pro EU and anti Brexit politicians on the planet.
     
  18. FIFY ;)
     
  19. Cheers Gimmy, I can't believe I missed that out. It must be the Christmas mead. :)
     
  20. Is that the SNP's mission statement for independence? :grinning:
     
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