British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. aye right
     
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  2. Good boy :)
     
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  3. You do Easy because you refuse to see what is right in front of your face whilst painting it is we know better than you whilst at the same time listening to the snp blowing piss and wind whilst saying it is the truth

    Fact, any devolved parliament can ask the U.K. government for a independence referendum. The U.K, government is under NO obligation to give it

    Fact, there needs to be a genuine reason for asking for such a vote backed by truth and at the moment, we don't like the tories in westminster is not enough.

    Fact. Nic cannot ask for a leave vote until she knows on what basis she wants to leave and until the 2 year negotiation has happened and approved through parliament, she will have no idea just what it is she is objecting too or whether the deal would be any good for Scotland

    Fact, any new country joining must accept the euro according to the EU

    Fact, any new country must be recognised by un charter and at the moment Scotland's official status is a state of the U.K., before the EU can consider it

    Fact, saying the Westminster government in London is too far away to under stand Scotland and to then want to replace it with another 27 governments on a completely different land mass whose capital is further away than Westminster is a lie the snp have been peddling to it's sheep for ages.

    Fact, even when it gets new country status, it will not be allowed to slide into the U.K.'s old spot, Spain and Belgium have already publicly stated they would block any attempt

    Fact, the snp are even more blinkered than ukip

    Fact, despite knowing all of the above to be true, Nic and her buddies know to keep their wish alive, they will have to keep on with the jibber jabber in the hope the impetus to leave will not have collapsed in 2 years time.
     
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  4. To be honest what May has said today is not anymore than what i suspect most thought would be her stand.

    As business leaders have said, the detail is what matters and IF we end up under WTO rules it will have a damaging effect on business in the UK.

    Brexit: Business and industry react to May's speech - BBC News

    The transitional period will be interesting. What do people reckon? 5 years? 10?
     
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  5. Farron strikes me as one of the least electable figure I've seen in British politics since Neil Kinnock. He isn't just a slightly tragic lame duck like Ed Millipede who the weak minded could almost vote for out of pity, he's got Kinnock's peevish, hectoring tone which is repellent to most voters.
     
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  6. I have to say, I've heard the saying "Staying positive", but you have an amazing ability to remain negative in the face of any positive news.

    And as for your question. If we don't negotiate a deal in 2 years, we'll be out. None of this transitions rubbish. Stick it in the bin along with soft brexit.

    Feel free to bookmark this.
     
  7. Tim Farron

     
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  8. I popped home at lunch and decided to put Sky news on, they had two 'economists' giving views

    The question of Britain reducing its corporation tax rates came up and the chap sat there saying it would be bad for Britain as reducing corporation tax would reduce tax revenue for the government, therefore it would be the people who can least afford it being the ones who pay the short fall.

    Now, let's just think about that for a minute....This is an economist so he must be right eh?

    Personally I think that's about the most pessimistic view you could have and unnecessarily negative

    I mean surely the idea of reducing tax rates is to not just encourage businesses already here to stay and invest further, but to entice even more businesses to come to the UK and invest?

    Therefore you end up with jobs already here remaining secure, those jobs ensure tax revenue, then more businesses coming to the UK paying 'some' corporation tax as opposed to none if they weren't here, and they also create jobs which in turn create even more tax revenue.

    I mean Jesus H Christ, why is everyone's glass half full?
     
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  9. The British PM:

    Echoing a threat from Philip Hammond, the chancellor, she said: “I must be clear. Britain wants to remain a good friend and neighbour to Europe but I know there are some voices calling for a punitive deal. That would be a case of calamitous self-harm for the countries of Europe and it would not be the act of a friend. Britain could not, indeed we would not, accept such an approach.”

    Bloody good on her, she's got more backbone than the rest of the UK's political party leaders put together.

    It needs saying and the bullshit EU leaders rhetoric needs to stop, whatever bloody Malta or Poland might stand there saying to look tough to their EU buddies isn't going to benefit the bigger players of the EU.

    Here in lies the problem with the EU, too many cooks......

    The sooner they realise that and step off the soapbox the better.
     
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  10. While on C4 news Emily Thornberry was doing her best to avoid answering questions, as usual, but suggested that one truly horrific outcome could be the UK ending up "like Singapore" !
     
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  11. Hot and humid?
     
  12. Rich, clean, with 100% employment and an exceptionally low crime rate and not a socialist in sight. Yes that would be a tragedy wouldn't it?
     
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  13. Fallon is completely outgunned by Corbyn as being the most unelectable leader. Corbyn could go down as the man who broke Labour, after the battle that will rage when the upcoming by-election defeats throw them into an embarrassing reality check. If Fallon was more pragmatic he could be welcoming many Labour voters who would not vote UKIP (as many will).
    Juncker must be spitting out his brandy upon hearing that the UK won't accept the bad deal he was lining up for us with a massive financial penalty going unpaid.
     
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  14. Well, apparently inflation has jumped to 1.6%.

    Do you think we will all get issued cyanide capsules?
     
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  15. Neil Kinnock only missed becoming Prime Minister by celebrating his victory before the election was held, up till that point he was winning. But I agree about Farron.
     
  16. It wasn't that long ago that the target for inflation was 2%.
     
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  17. Yeah but but but .... Brexit! May! Trump! Surely now is the time for us all to immolate ourselves?
     
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  18. "We're all right!" :Wacky:
     
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  19. Just watched a bit of sky in Basingstoke
    Interestingly the remainers are liking Mays speech today and the leavers aren't happy at all

    Think this will be a Brexit for the remainers wrapped up to look like a leavers Brexit?
     
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  20. I'm a leaver and she said everything I wanted to hear.
     
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