The OBR predictions are based on current economic models, so essentially the status quo. As such it's not really anything to do with Brexit, it's more to do with it being unsustainable as it is. So, in or out of the EU, the message would be the same. Take the NHS as an example, purely because it's highlighted in the link you posted, is struggling as it is with the current economy, not the future 'post Brexit' (although plausible) More people use it year on year , and like it or not the ever increasing amount of immigration, both legal and illegal, adds to that usage and strain. Admittedly there are clearly other factors at play which add to that strain, but part of leaving the EU will hopefully lower the volume of 'health tourists' which may take some pressure off. It's fine people saying 'oh it hardly makes a difference' and 'health tourism isn't a problem', but to be fair that's bollocks. It must do, it's basic math. The more people using the NHS the more it costs. And while we have hospitals saying that they refuse to ask for ID documentation even though instructed to do so, and the 'pc brigade' saying it's racist to even contemplate it, how the hell can they say one way or another? How can those not counting say theres no effect? That in itself is a farce, the NHS and the people who work within are in most part brilliant people, Im never going to condemn their efforts. But they are still employees, and if the directive is to ask for ID so that the UK government can claim back against other EU nations (as its supposed to under EHIC) then thats what the job is. See here for an article reported on by Sky news 'pre-Brexit' vote, which is when they were slightly less bias to the remain vote - NHS 'Scandal' As UK Pays Millions To EU Amazing how none of the news agencies are looking at info like this, they just want to fill the headlines with doom and gloom as its easier to peddle. None the less, that just another small piece of the puzzle, not the entire failing. Also, The OBR cannot possibly forecast for our economy 2-5 years in the future (or more) as there are way too many variables unknown to all, even the pm. They have no idea what trade deals we'll have in place with the EU, with other countries, what our economic model will be, whether we go for a reduction in corporation tax to encourage new business investment in the UK , whether that investment comes or on what scale......and on and on and on Frankly, the report can't really highlight much more than we know already. It definitely can't forecast for any further in to the future past the full exit of the EU, whenever that may be. Finally, let's make something abundantly clear, the UK deficit was largely caused by the previous government, you know, that party that used to be Labour (God knows what they are now) The problem hasn't gone away, and yes it needs dealing with, but keeping things as they are/were wasn't solving it. Trying to blame Brexit is laughable as the problem was there waaaay before we even voted, and would likely continue to get worse if we remained as that wouldnt have been different. What they cant say for certain is that Brexit will have a worsening effect, they can guess, but they cant know. So, leave things as they are and it continues, i think thats a fair assumption. However, change things and see how it ends up, could be worse BUT it could also get a whole lot better.
It has been proven time and time again that when taxation is reduced to competitive levels investment and growth is encouraged, unemploment falls and more revenue is collected, not less. The UK's public finances are unsustainable because taxation and spending is too high. In England state spending accounts for over 40% of economic activity. It Scotland it is over 60%. That is what is unsustainable. State spending should be no more than 30% over overall economic activity and ideally 25%. The UK will never ever balance its books under this profligate model. Taxation will never keep pace with the size of government. You will never collect enough taxes. And if you tried to levy taxes at the rate that would allow you just to tread water your economy becomes internationally uncompetitive, businesses leave in droves, tax revenues tumble, debt and unemployment rise and more people become dependent on a state which hasn't the money to provide. Its a vicious circle. Its also chapter one, page one, line one of Economics for Dummies. We have too much government. It does too much, gets in the way of economic activity, especially for smaller businesses which are the backbone of the economy and haven't the resources and wealth of corporate business to get round bureaucratic barriers.
I've only been to Singapore as a tourist so I typed into search what is Singapore known for and on the first page found this , some interesting everyday people observations What is Singapore known for? - Quora
a friend of mine lives and works there.... she cant speak highly enough of it, although admittedly she says its extremely expensive.. but as the saying goes thats often said on this board"you get what you pay for"
Singapore is a beautiful place and extremely vibrant, both economically and aesthetically. In fact I think I've just made my decision to stop over there on my way to Australia later this year
Better late than never. That is IF it happens of course. BBC Impartiality to Be Monitored 'Scientifically', Says Chairman
He's still a buffoon but in reality its just another whirlwind of 'PC' bollocks, one rule for one etc Perhaps not the best of comparisons to make but he referenced a 'movie', not a real life scenario, people need to get a grip and stop this constant politically correct rubbish. He was merely pointing out that Francois Hollande has been very vocal in his desire/recommendation to threaten Britain and making us pay a price. Why aren't we calling out these European heads of state for their vocal threats and clear bully boy posturing? When we say something its the worst thing in the world, yet you get far more being said about us from the EU block. Who had a democratic vote? - We did Who is following through on democracy? - We are. The hypocrisy is astounding from them. They stand and talk in big speeches about how their values are about freedom and democracy. Yet when it actually happens for real , as it has, they condemn it and call us stupid. Who they hell do they think they are? Thats over 50% of our country they're calling stupid by the way., but thats ok to our media. They want democracy but on their terms, in their way and with their required outcomes. Farcical. Quote from Mr Hollande (October 2016) “There must be a threat, there must be a risk, there must be a price, otherwise we will be in negotiations that will not end well and, inevitably, will have economic and human consequences,” the French president said. “Britain has decided on a Brexit, I believe even a hard Brexit. Well, we must go all the way with Britain’s will to leave the European Union,” Quote from Boris: "If Monsieur Hollande wants to administer punishment beatings to anybody who chooses to escape, rather in the manner of some World War Two movie, then I don't think that is the way forward. "I think, actually, it's not in the interests of our friends and our partners."
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I did see some headlines in that they said Boris had called Hollande a nazi, so I tracked down the full interview he did and not once did he mention nazi or even germans. I think that one thing comes out of Brexit and Trump, people who feel they are working for the majority are less likely to be worried about calling out their colleagues in the opposition, in this case it was Hollande getting some truth. Funnily enough on the day of May's speech they interviewed on sky, the chief economist to Merkel and he was drawn into admitting absolutely the U.K. has to be punished to stop others thinking they can use the E.U. like a buffet bar, it's all or nothing he said. This has been the major downfall of the E.U. Whilst they think it's a game, they have forgotten we are the paying customers.
We are not paying customers at all, we are members of a club. In order to enjoy the facilities and benefits of that club, we have to pay a subscription. If we say to the club that we no longer want to pay any or much of the subscription but still want to enjoy at least some of the club's benefits and facilities, other members are bound to ask why they should pay their full subscription. The club has to protect itself. Clubs often have different categories of membership, such as social. junior, senior etc. However, these categories are always restricted and restrictive in order to keep the full-membership category attractive. No club is perfect, members always have some gripe or other about how it is run. I happen to believe the benefits of this particular club outweigh the problems. You do not and that is why I am a 'remoaner' because you and your fellow 'quitters' are forcing me to leave too. I shall remain a remoaner until I am proved wrong. I won't be holding my breath.
No one is forcing you at all, like most remoaners you believe democracy only works if you get your own way We had a democratic vote, you willingly took part. What part of that is forcing you?
I had Sky News on last night as I now refuse to watch the BBC. They opened with "Boris Johnson compares Monsieur Hollande to a Nazi". He said no such thing. :Finger: Fake news indeed. :Meh:
The "NHS scandal" of imbalance in EHIC claims is probably made much worse by the fact that the UK, with its "free to all who appear to reside here" approach, is not very good at ensuring that EHIC cards are not being obtained fraudulently, including by NON-EU citizens. There are criminals who make a good living obtaining them for people, who can then travel throughout the EU and bill their healthcare back to the UK taxpayer! NHS vulnerable to health card fraud, government admits - BBC News I don't think that EU workers who come to reside in the UK actually form a significant part of the "imbalance" in this area because I am not sure they need to present an EHIC (to allow bill-back to their original home country) if they are legally resident in the UK (rather than simply visiting). The EHIC imbalance will continue as long as the NHS has no real interest in charging for anything at the point of service, because they don't really have the systems in place (it's so much easier to assume that all patients are entitled to free treatment, without EHIC card). Because most other EU countries have an element of co-payment, or at least "pay some up front and claim back" they are naturally going to be more efficient at processing EHIC claims. Also, even for some EU citizens, if they'd normally have to pay something back home, then having an illegally-obtained/used UK EHIC card may offer a handy cost saving. And we should not assume that the EHIC card will cease to be relevant to the UK - at present it is a scheme which covers "EEA countries and Switzerland", not just the EU. I guess it's one of the many things which will need to be included in some sort of "deal", and looking at the imbalance figures, it's a great example of a situation where the rest of the EU stands to lose out if they don't play fair (if we simply stopped using EHIC cards in the UK, it looks like the NHS would be £600m per year better off, according to the Sky report!).
i would not have thot moving from bbc to sky was a good thing,, unless you are just trying to reinforce the Andy Capp mentality.
