British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. You old smoothie, fin, you know how to charm a female impersonator, dontcha :D
     
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  2. if it suits me needs aye.
     
  3. Like wings over Scotland is actually wings over Somerset?

    Which is more than a fair point Bob. I remember watching an interview with the Polish prime minister when she insisted Polish should be allowed into the U.K. and the interviewer asked, would brits get the same benefits in poland of all kind as poles do in the U.K. she simply said no.

    The transisition period will have some people who will have to rethink where their future is. It is the right thing to do for the U.K. but totally understand why those who no longer live here may be incredibly unhappy. I wonder if any party who hasn't lived in the U.K. for many years would be able to get around this by applying to be a citizen of that country they have lived in for years as some do here in the U.K. ?

    This highlights the difficulty of how long/far do you consider a minority. For every minority, they will be a majority to someone else so at what point do you devolve devolve and devolve.

    Just a reference Orkney Islands in threat to quit Scotland AND UK after Brexit | UK | News | Daily Express

    Orkney to explore independence from Scotland and UK following Brexit

    Given the islands used to belong to Norway, I wouldn't be to surprised if the islands decided the oil was theirs and not Scotlands or the U.K.'s

    Nobody has said minority is not entitled to an opinion or shut up and go away ( although I do wish nic and alex would stop stirring up the loons). However when a issue is pushed to be decided and decided by a vote then the majority vote is always the winning vote

    Agreed, The snp has told it's sheep that the seperation (that won't happen) means they get to leave the pro rata U.K. debt but get to keep the oil and the simplest have fallen for it.

    SHOULD there be independence win,(unlikely) the oil and share of U.K. debt absolutely would be on the table for discussion and that could drag on for years as there is no article 50 with a 2 year max period agreed within the U.K.

    The U.K. is due to leave the E.U. in 2019 but has financial commitments to the E.U. till 2020. We will of course honour that because that is how it is done
     
  4. shameless finm shameless
     
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  5. I wonder how Toyota Derby employees and suppliers are feeling today after their Chairman's statement.
     
  6. Well, find out and report back here. And make it snappy.

    The old Duke is back and all is well (hell) with the world :D
     
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  7. 48.1 to 51.9 is hardly decisive.

    Would the quitters have just shut up and gone away if the vote had gone against them by the same margin? I think not.
     
  8. With up to two thirds of Scotland's "exports" going into it's neighbour and the rest of the EU running third behind the rest of the world; I'm curious what the drive to an independent Scotland and membership of the EU is about? The culmination of their proposals is to join a club to "negotiate" a trade deal with the country where 60+% of its goods go? Can the fish twin's xenophobia run so deep?

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  9. Don't forget the 25% of the electorate who were content to cede their votes to whichever side won! :D

    Brexiteers would have been magnanimous in defeat because they have bigger hearts than Remoaners.
     
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  10. Dream on...
     
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  11. o ffs.nob you cant even get that right, and just for the scots.
    wings owner, affectionately known as the rev, works in bath, born, bred and educated in Scotland and refuses to return until it becomes an independent nation again.
    he and his team run the the second biggest debunking site in the uk after anonymous whith various commentators many of whom are journos, professors and ex bbc staff,
    an ex computer games maker and games jurno. the papers cant touch him. they have tried and lost. doesn't sell advertising, doesn't have any party affiliation. it doesn't do opinion pieces. just debunks headlines by offering links to the appropriate sources, the information that should accompany any headline. (assuming manipulating the public aint your prime motive when yer asked by the editor to write 500 words on any particular subject to push the papers owners opinions)
     
  12. Wooosshhhh, that went right over your head.

    I was talking about the amount of posters that agree with duke and the amount that disagree with him. If it's 48.1% to 51.9% I'll eat my hat. :D
     
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  13. The point still applies
     
  14. It is when it comes to democracy and the democratic vote.
     
  15. It wasn't even supposed to be binding
     
  16. You are forgetting that in a democratic vote, if you really *really* don't want something to happen ... your votes counts double :)
     
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  17. That's one hell of a lot of disenfranchised voters, especially when there is no mandate for a hard Brexit
     
  18. Nothing is binding.
    The only true measure is, "What would the fallout be if we renege?". That is what decides whether a proposition or agreement is "binding" or not.
     
  19. There was a referendum on "hard" or "soft" Brexit? When was this?
     
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  20. Exactly.
    The Govt. was afraid of the reaction of some of the more 'committed' Brexiters
     
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