British Indy: What Happens Now?

This old chestnut is all the old remoaners have, so tell me what do you think all the brexiteers thought they were voting for?

 

Please refer to my previous statement

 

Your choice

 

I see that twat Blair is up to his mischief again.

 

Mate,take a look back at the comments from some Scots contributors to this thread and see how much pro-English sentiment is expressed.You'll find quite a bit of pro-Scottish support from those of us who live in England,including from myself at the beginning.I'm not a hypocrite,if I wanted a Referendum for myself with regard to Independence from the EU then I fully support the right of Scotland to decide whether they want independence from the UK.
But how can anyone argue,(with a straight face),that the SNP want Independence,when they are desperately trying to stay/become members of a far bigger Federation which openly states that their aim is a Federal Superstate?
Now bearing in mind that the laws and regulations in the UK are broadly the same as those in the EU, SNP cannot possibly want Independence,it just wants to be decoupled from the United Kingdom and then become a vassal state of the European project.
Now,if someone from your fair country would square that particular circle for me without including a sneering remark about Westminster or the Tories,(always a favourite),then I would appreciate it.
Democracy is generally accepted to mean the will of the people,and in modern UK terms it is usually expressed by having a vote and accepting the decision of the majority.
In the IndyRef case,the majority,(not by much),voted to remain within the United Kingdom
In the EU Referendum,the majority,(not by much),voted to leave the EU.
Now here's the thing:
Democracy,at least by recent definition,does not allow for,"not by much": those whose votes were in the minority are required to accept the result,live with the consequences and cross their fingers that those in the majority were right/things would be ok.This is what those of us who have endured the consequences of EU membership have done over the last 45 years,we just got on with it.
Until somebody actually asked us to we want more of it,and then the majority of us with experience or imagination said fuck that we are outta here.
Sooo...if that is the case,how come the SNP are threatening another Referendum because they didn't like the result of the first one? If this happened in Nigeria,or Russia,or any other non-Western country,there would be a public outcry... i.e Democracy ignored.
Sames is happening here in England...people are actually demonstrating against the result of a democratically held Referendum.Democracy ignored again.
At the moment,Scotland has a very large voice,and a share in the benefits,of being a member of a Union of 65,363,493 people.
In the EU,(presumably you have some Scottish MEP's?), you have a voice,and a share in the benefits of,a Union of 739,075,985 people
If all those two groups of people were in different rooms,in which one would your voice be the loudest?

 

hmm, someone doesn't understand the difference between independence with a veto within the EU and the unwritten UK constitution. or the issues outside yer little bubble.
handing over absolute power to the sycophants and unelected, wasn't yer wisest move. for reasons we dont have to keep going round and round
the needs of people and communities all over, are basically the same.
how can you not talk about Scotland's position in the uk without having a sneering comment poked at westminster and the tories? (red or blue). i include the north of England,wales and NI in that btw. pretty sure they have one or two issues with the above, but being a region rather a country with no viable alternative i guess they just have to suck it up. or vote ukip. you will have notice last night if you watched QT not a single word on immigration btw.
LOZ hows yer boner?
getting Rather bored of repeating myself here, but i get it, your politicians suck, you are marching on westminster any decade soon. but struggling to find any evidence of systematic abuse of privileges with our lot. despite the unprecedented unbiased scrutiny (aye right) of our government. how many? one,two, five maybe?
maybe you could show me some examples? bearing in mind they have been in power for 10 years there must be a mountain of material you can present.
just what are they guilty of? representing their constituents or the minority and whip required to keep a government in power in another country?
i feel genuine pity for some of you. you are obviously interested in politics and democracy. but what real options have you got? none.

 

Thankfully the snp is not an option here.

 

We do. Independence happened when the U.K. as a whole took a poll on whether or not to stay in the eu.

We understand that if sturgeon does as her predecessor did, try and fill the one trick party message of what they want for themselves no matter what the cost, then she will end up like her predecessor too

So for the U.K. we stand confident and able as a strong nation, about to go into negotiations.

For the snp, they can't afford to lose 2 elections and lose 2 leaders. So the question there is given she would lose her role should she lose and would go to the back benches, will she put her career and the snp first, or the people of Scotland.

 

nah, its inevitable loz.
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ZZZZzzzzzz career first or the people of up here?.eh, take a look at each and every one of your services, satisfaction indexes. and the price of Raleigh choppers. you know nothing or worse than that, you ken fine but are happy to promote the lie.

 

tell me about the uk constitution.
fud. :smileys:

 

What lie is that fin? Salmon pushed for a referendum "for a generation" lie?

He resigned after failing what he claimed was the right thing to do?

If nic has one and fails then she will have to resign and it will greatly damage any future chance of an independence vote?

As to the chopper, if I had been wrong, it would have sold by now would it have not? Keep trying fin keep trying

 

ah, one fud times two = a pair o fuds :smileys: