British Indy: What Happens Now?

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You got nothing better to do at 3 am , sad sorry soul

 

either that or it wasn't 3am where he is. You one dimensional fool.

 

wow, quite a grumpy lot so ye are. you should all try being more mellow. like what i am. :smileys:

 

I find it amusing that Sadiq Khan is using the racist card against the ScotNats, and they don't like it up 'em.

 

English Scots for yes response
On Nationalism… – English Scots for YES

 

I see it's another blog, given wings over summerzet is run by a fake rev, is this one run by a fake pope?

 

you tell me, what do you think? not seen much trashing of his and his teams debunking or filling in the missing gaps from your beloved msm. by you or the msm. whys that? what you and yer pals scared of? considering its got a bigger readership than most of the daily's up here you would think he would be more of a target no?.

 

Scared of nothing fin even more so given you continue to refuse to answer 2 main questions

How can the snp say the deal is bad for Scotland so you need to leave the U.K. before the deal is even agreed and run for a while to see if it is good or bad for Scotland?

How can the snp say they feel under represented in a country of 4 but feel they will be represented more in an organisation where the top table is not elected by the people and is an organisation of 28?

 

seeing as i am quiet today....
hmm, nice (but noticed) diversion technique noob, classic jurno approach, sure you haven't been here before?
think you have one or two accusations to clarify yourself but hayho, yer silence on that matter speaks volumes.
to answer yer first question. experience.
second gets back to the whole misrepresentation of how the EU works, independence with a veto is considerably difference and improvement on what we have now.
tell me why it isn't.
a wee bit more on yer first question. i think Westminster got a wee respite when labour started winning elections at the turn of the last century but alas, they proved to be no better.
hence we are where we are now.
the snp has been polling pretty much since its conception.
sometimes like ukip, quite highly. but thats where the similarity ends. the party changed quite significantly in the late seventy's early eighty's more left leaning since then and will be dropped like a hot stone if systematic abuse is proved. they try, but yer colleges fail at every turn to provide anything but make believe.
including the race card you keep trying to play. civic nationalism is something you just cant get yer head around. what does that say about you?
we as in me, along with the other 50%? now and growing are done here, its just a matter of time.ticktok.
to many reasons to go over and over again, on a thread where not many that comment are interested or bored of hearing our particular point of view. re the uk constitution.
may i suggest you concentrate on the failings of your representatives to deal with the issues within yer own country.
your representatives failure to represent has somehow been turned against our ability to negotiate. loz along with pretty much every body calls it grievance. i call it politics.
we have it, westminster wants it.
labours loosing votes by the bucket load in the north for failing to represent them, quite often by whipping them to deal with the issues of the south.the place where governments get elected..
you guys really need a northern parliament.
badly.

 

if you don't understand it loz you where never meant to.

 

Nope, never been here before and as I hate social media I am likely to be a journo/blogger in Summerzet or anything of that ilk. I only came here since buying a Strada 1000 as most Ducati owners know, a good forum for WHEN it breaks down is vital. I will be posting much less from next week as the working from home assignment is finished and back to the constraints of a group from Monday

I asked a deaf bloke about this and he confirms silence is still, silence of which there are no volumes

Happy to oblige. This silver bullet you have been lead to believe will cure all ills of independence. Currently Scotland is the most powerful devolved government and if the fishies were clever instead of confrontational then they would realise long term there is hope possibly for an independent Scotland within the U.K. but they are confrontational and their whole drive is not Scotland first but more Sturgeons wish to go down in history as the leader that did it no matter what the cost and the Scots deserve more than that.They are in such a rush to do it that the consequences are not seen as consequences at all

In that drive yes, the snp are more a one trick pony than ukip and dangerous to the people of Scotland first. No country has ever done well when trying the get out first then sort out the shit afterwards and that is what they would have to do because they will not leave the uk at midnight and slide into the eu at one minute past, you know this, the snp know this and the eu know this

I put this bit as a shoe in but will mention the other bits

True Scotland is not a democracy anymore and is more of a one party state more than even Westminster and Labour are done in Scotland as they soon will be in the rest of the U.K. The snp's total one focus as I said makes them look like ukip even more than ukip, a one trick party with blinkers beyond their mission.

As to civic nationalism, your own examples show why it fails. A Iranian student with an Iranian passport studying at a Glasgow university is considered more Scottish than a newspaper that has been in Scotland since 1895, is based in Glasgow, is run by Scottish staff and is mostly on sale only in Scotland. Another example when oil is mentioned is that Scottish is also pushed forward as a Scottish industry despite most of the main Scottish companies not being owned by Scots and often not even by anyone in the U.K.

Your civic nationalism is open to so many variances depending on what suits your need at the time and that, is no system of consistency.

I watch the polls and whilst most are wrong, there does seem to be around a 50 50 on another vote which is different than a "I would vote 50/50". Were I May I say yeah why not and approve it one week after Brexit was concluded that would leave the snp having to negotiate out of the U.K. first which may also take 2 years then they would have to apply to the eu and we both know even if Scotland is accepted and as I have said, it will not be apply at lunchtime and in by tea time, that would leave Scotland in limbo in a way the snp refuses to accept

This is normal snp nonsense of denial. Have you noticed that there have been Scottish mp's in parliament since it's creation or in recent times, the snp have always had a vocal voice in the commons and the lords but still your message is not being bought by enough or wanted by enough. The failing is the snp's on that part and no one elses. You can't keep blaming Westminster for a poor snp ability within the U.K. government even if you try too daily

Personally I think need a devolved English parliament for a more equal U.K. badly but for now I will do what most brits do, Understand we have one government that acts on our behalf.

At the heart of all of this, the snp want to leave the uk no matter what the cost and want it fast before the people realise they were tricked and that is the truth. instead of taking on the English why don't you ask the snp the awkward questions ?

 

aye, but yer starting to get it. i can tell by you're usage and placement of "the".

 

Omg , I think Chizel thinks you are somewhere far away , maybe he is not so stupid , I think he must be right

 

Prob something you understand more than I do