British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. did you cut and paist that from the express?
    i told yah before. you know nothing of which you speak, you make it up as you go along, your still trying to rewrite history.and avoid yer initial accusations. your reply's are predictable,boring and irrelevant.
    you know how i know this. and where i stopped reading?.(apart from the last line)
    "the most powerful devolved government". clever use of most powerful.:Hilarious: i know it, anyone watching and sharing my point of view knows it. and knows exactly where i am coming from.
    ask the difficult questions?
    near 100yrs in Westminster, 10years in government, and yer asking them,me and the 50%? to ask the difficult questions.. really?
    you have been here before. if not, it was deffo your doppelganger.

    read between the lines noob and start another thread on it. people are getting bored.
     
  2. OK. I'll add it to the list then.

    Gibberbot :D
     
  3. Doesn't he have enough pseudonyms? :D
     
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  4. Don't worry fin. You asked me a lot of questions and in your mind they are reasonable. When I reply to them then you avoid most of them but try the old ..well all of it really.

    You wrote your lines, I wrote mine, there was no between the lines. You have as I mentioned, continued to refuse to answer the key questions. I'm okay with that, it's your right to do so but that is what you have done. still on the positive side, the more people that see it, the more the snp's claims fail, I am okay with that too

    I'll ask one question fin and a simple yes or no will do

    Should there be another referendum and the snp wins, do you think the snp will be able to negotiate it's way out of the U.K. and then join the eu the minute they officially leave the U.K. ?
     
    #6984 noobie, Feb 27, 2017
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  5. The one on the back of your fag packet ?
     
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  6. who knows. but the upshot any negotiation will be taken in the best interests of up ere and not seen as expendable to maintain whats good for down there.
    unless yer still living in the past and believe in pooling and sharing with trickle down?.
    thing is, 60p back for every pound we have put in on average since the year dot and excluding oil, it does go to show gravity is strong in the uk. seems fair no?
    but again, it was and remains jack all about the money. something else you cant get yer head around.
    now, do everybody a favor and start a separate thread to highlight yer ignorance on uUK political and social attitudes.
    ask the difficult questions ffs. people are bombarded with your kind of pish from morn till night. on every platform going. yet still support is increasing. you never learn.
     
  7. So you want people of Scotland to jump from the U.K. to the eu based on "Who knows"?

    but again, it was and remains jack all about the money. something else you cant get yer head around

    What i do know fin is that patriotism isn't enough on it's own to pay the bills, no matter what the snp tell you

    I am surprised given how much the snp blather on about independence that the simple question I asked and given your snp brainwashing, that the best you came out with was who knows. Surely they would have told you?
     
  8. Hear Hear Jeremy. :)

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn yesterday sparked controversy after telling the SNP that it should forget a second independence referendum, and that it should be “ashamed” of how it has governed Scotland for the past decade.

    “There is no appetite for yet another referendum,” Corbyn said while speaking at a party’s conference in Perth.

    “To the SNP I say this, Listen to the people and respect democracy.

    “The Scottish people are telling you to get on with your day job and start fixing the mess you have made.

    “But maybe that’s too much like hard work for the SNP. Far better for them to call for another referendum to divert attention away from their appalling record on colleges, social care, the NHS and transport,” he added.
     
  9. Poor old Jeremy, will never make a prime minister, he will if he stays, run labour into the ground but as a back bencher, a perfectly reasonable man if not rather stuck in the 70's of thinking all Labour supporters have ferrets down t trousers.

    On the above he does raise a point and we have seen it in here. It would be easy to single out fin as he is the largest opponent of it but others with a snp bias have used the same tactic when faced with tough questions away from the snp script.

    I'm sure most of us at school remember the old saying, who ever smelt it, dealt it. For those not in the know, it meant if someone said ewww who farted? they had themselves but was trying to divert attention away from themselves

    Now when asked quite reasonable and pertinent questions, those of the snp persuasion will be seen on occasion to say rather than answer with an answer they do not have, will claim on a divert when in fact that is what they have just done, in other circles it's known as a reverse of the reverse

    Whilst entertaining to watch, it doesn't really get answers as they hope they will be lost in the static of false directions

    Scotland does deserve to be an equal partner, as does Wales, as does Northern Ireland and hopefully one day soon England with a devolved parliament but all have representatives in something called the U.K. houses of parliament.

    It should not be assumed every Scot supports the snp or that every snp member is a loon. What you can be sure of is when the awkward questions are asked of those who when cut in half will show snp, they will ask "ewww who farted?"
     
    #6989 noobie, Feb 27, 2017
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  10. Corbyn may have a few points there but I think he should keep his nose out of Scotland as the SNP have managed to make the Labour brand almost as toxic as the Conservatives north of the border. He is more likely to have the opposite effect to the one he hopes.
     
  11. John Major? Is that the same John Major that stood alongside Tony Blair during the Brexit campaign. Argued vehemently to remain in the EU and predicted doom and economic ruin if we left. That John Major? Also one of the worst Prime Ministers of recent times.

    Is this the best you can do ?

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  12. your questions noob have been answered, a gazziliion times, in a gazzilion different ways to try and help you understand. but either you are just plain argumentative just for the sake of it or are truly brainwashed to believe nothing is possible without westminster control. ie an imperialist.
    can you answer a single brexit outcome other than no deal instead of a bad deal?
    the financial case has been made. an economy upward of a trill annually, the only part of the uk with a trade surplus, we contribute about 40% more to the uk than we get back, ie we are subsidizing wars and weapons, uk infrastructure projects, (half of which are in london) and loan decisions we would never take in an independent country.
    if you nail down any one senior politician or economist they will tell you the same. an economy equivalent to Portugal i believe was said last week, not to sure what that means other than they have twice the population. does that mean we are as individuals twice as wealthy? and knowing how the GERS figures are gathered i suspect they are not a true or accurate representation. in fact i have watched too many uk treasury ministers questioned at holyrood to be anything other than certain we are being short changed.
    its an old and tired approach you take noob. yer too wee too poor too stupid is best saved for too stupid.
    now if you want to ask why would anybody want to consider voting for self determination, just look at brexit, with a fraction of the loss of sovereignty all yer questions will be answered there.
    we are a separate country, given away, not that long ago, by considerably less than 1% of the population, the country wasn't skint. yours was, its been simmering and boiling away for at least 100years now,
    the best thing the British government can do in the event of another reff as a result of brexit is play it fair, keep the promises made and keep the British party's in holyrood out off any future smith type of negotiation, or it truly will be neverendum.
    if people feel British and want to keep it that way then fine, you cant argue or debate with that, totally cool. but don't tell me we have some geographical or mental impairment that makes it impossible or even too hard.
    yip, Corbin should keep out, or at least try and present the facts and sell them to us, rather than old school red tory lying, you do us a disservice Corbin, coming up here thinking we don't no shit. i'm a lightweight compared to most, busy running my own wee business, but i know our economy even without oil, Barnet, and how our services are funded, i know how the rest of the uk is doing. i know labour once supported Scottish self determination. i also know your past strategy of keeping us in the dark and feeding us shit makes it a certainty.
    we have uncovered more scandal and abuse of power in the last 10years than all your supporting press could ever admit to in the last 50years. cocks.
    coming up here playing the race card in a last ditch attempt. gertyfook man.
    support is increasing. i could produce considerably more than one including the most recent survey to confirm if i wasnt bored already.
    you cant stop the tory/ukip alliance taking us god knows where. not now not in the next fifteen years, by then it will be to late,its back to 1945 yah incompetent feckers.
    fucking B.l.i.S.
    right, enough already. :mad:
    :Hilarious::smileys:
     
  13. The Mighty Mog. :D

     
  14. Rees-Mogg the twat who would like us all to work on zero hours contracts so he can exploit us all.

    The aristocratic twat who stands up in parliament to support the tobacco, oil and mining industries as they are all big customers of his company. Fuck the constituents who he is supposed to represent.
     
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  15. Nope what you've done is say look how much we earn, see, see our wage slip but you've kept the deductions hidden so no one can see what the end amount is.

    I mentioned before there are so many hidden traps that will call for massive infrastructure costs because the U.K. currently does it and Scotland does not, dvla, fisheries protection, armed forces, decommissioning old and out of date oil rigs, postal services,highways agencies, immigration services, prisons, etc etc all of which have not been explained how the people of Scotland will fund it and still retain the same level of service

    It's no good you wandering down the street like Harry Enfields character loadsa money with a wad in your hand saying look how much I got then the tax man comes up behind you
     
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