British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Apparently the author,(Lord Kerr?),didn't have the UK in mind when he wrote it...
    Article 50
    1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

    2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

    3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

    4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

    A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

    5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.

    And here is an article which has some of his annotations explaining what he what he meant when he wrote it:
    Article 50 annotated — with comments from its author – POLITICO
     
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  2. sorry to piss on your parade. there's more than one side to this.
    you guys put an awful lot of faith in a government and political system i have watched you lambast for incompetence, self interest, greed and promoting division for the 4years i have been on here. strange.
    i just dont get your eagerness to see the breakup of the the EU. if it happens, sooner or later with large disenfranchised sections of society across Europe, like here, still suffering the continued globalization and automation thats inevitable. pushing the governments further to the right with the potential for some leaders only to happy to oblige. when you (the brexiteers) finally realize our problems arnt going away, your gonna need someone else to blame. being no less a victim of the manipulating press then yourselves,from what i see, there is a v.large percentage of brexiteers that already have very little to lose. whats so unique about this time in history that that is so hard to believe?.
    anyhoo, enjoy yer brexit, we'r aff. and i urge the people of N.I. to do the same.

    for the Scots, remainers and those that can think more than one step ahead at time.
    i heard a heavily (surprise surprise) edited version of this on the way to work yesterday.
    got no intention of debating this. just putting it out there.
    loz will find it funny, noob will post an edited quote, and some will brake in to a rendition of rule Britannia .
    BBC Radio Scotland - Good Morning Scotland, 28/03/2017, Sir Tom Devine: Brexit and IndyRef2
    ticktock.
     
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  3. Got this on repeat in my head today :Finger:

     
  4. And here we go....
     
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  5. All those EU buildings they are showing on Sky
    And we own 1/27th of them!
    What do you reckon we'll get in rent for our bit?
    Or is it better to sell our part to them?...good time to sell,knowing how high property prices are over there at the moment...
     
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  6. absolutely.
    the less publicly owned assets the better. despite the ordinary mans contribution to paying for them, it would deffo be better to sell them off to cover extra tax brakes for the already wealthy. it's the british way.
     
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  7. Ahem @Loz He lost the bet to me, do you not think the charity should be of my choosing? :) I've already given him 2 options, although I may show benevolence if he nominates a worthy cause. ;)
     
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  8. This is where Sturgeon needs to shut her mouth and learn rather than hoping shouting the loudest and bullying her way for a vote no majority is asking for.

    She should watch how the U.K. negotiates, what they ask for, what they get and how it works after. If she does that then she will have a basis to negotiate with the U.K. should the people of Scotland (not the snp government) ever choose to leave

    as to this bit fin
    for the Scots, remainers and those that can think more than one step ahead at time.i heard a heavily (surprise surprise) edited version of this on the way to work yesterday.got no intention of debating this. just putting it out there.
    loz will find it funny, noob will post an edited quote, and some will brake in to a rendition of rule Britannia .

    Most remainers would rather the U.K. fails so we can go back begging to the eu and say please please can we join again. Most Scots by proven actual voting far larger numbers would rather stay in the U.K. than the e.u.

    fin of your statement one part is more wrong than any other part

    for the Scots, remainers and those that can think more than one step ahead at time

    I think that is wrong on so many levels. It is by a country mile, the remainers are not able to see beyond the end of the deal where as most brexiteers are looking way way way beyond the end of the deal and to a point we see, Oh yeah, brexit, I remember that, it didn't turn out too bad after all did it.
     
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  9. I would have asked you, Rob but you wouldn't have replied. Duke will be much more forthcoming, I'm certain of that :Angelic:
     
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  10. Sing Along Finm :D

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  11. :D
     
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  12. tory.
    up my way, thats about as bad as it gets. ya tory. :mad:
    if you want to get into some tat for a tit. you will lose.
    ticktock.
     
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  13. Tit Tock :smileys:
     
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  14. yeah yeah, what's next , I dream a dream by Susan Boyle? irrelevant of your country, lets look at figures

    A nation of 5.3 million relies on a United Kingdom of 60 million people for 64% of it's trade valued at £49.8 billion in 2015

    Now if you think that is a bad thing and you want to start a tit for tat with a nation of 60 million then perhaps you have been listening to those financial experts who have been advising the snp in government and might explain why they have a worse gdp deficit than Greece.

    I know the snp are crap at figures and saw old bawbag angus at it today going on about the snp got the highest percentage of it's nation vote to be in government, he uses percentages because it hides the true figures

    snp government were voted in by 1,059,897,
    the U.K. government were voted in by 11,334,576
    How'd you like them apples Angus
     
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