Took the new bike out for a ride today and whilst in traffic, it was cutting out when shifting up the gears without the clutch. Was fine at the start and at the end of the journey, but was doing this in the middle. Did it about 6 times Anyone else experienced this?
I honestly thought El Toro was joking in this thread https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/oh-no-not-another-one.52492/
Only low revs kinda 2k as I was in traffic, pulling away at islands. Strange thing is, it didn't do it later in the journey when I was in traffic in Matlock.
tbh I can't believe people use a quick shifter at such low revs. TBH its not surprising the system struggles; it cuts ignition (probably) and at 2k doesn't have many revs to drop. why not just clutches change, old style instead?
2000rpm is hardly off tickover and are not the revs to be changing gear. About town is the worst environment for any of the Ducati big twins and you are unlikely to get out of first. I agree with bradders, using the clutch for changes from 1st to 2nd will be easier on the engine. IIRC, most after market quick shifter guides recommend using the clutch between 1st and 2nd routinely. Andy
Well that explains then why it didn't do it on the rest of the journey when moving freely. Every day is a school day, but one thing I will add though, if the lad at riders where I brought the bike explained that being able to quickshift up and down would eliminate the need for the clutch once moving
It's odd that none of the bike manufacturers make these recommendations as it's the same across the board, but particularly with big twins that are a bit more clunky than inline fours. I'm sure the timing of the engine cut on the up quick shift got increased for exactly this reason around 2014 as my earlier 2012 Pani was different to it's replacement in 2014. It's a difficult compromise for the factory when so many people want to buy a racebike thats supposed to live at 10,000rpm plus and hard throttle but in reality are using it for cutting around town at 2k rpm and afraid to rev it hard.
Maybe they should do some sort of software change so the quickshifter only works in certain modes. Even better, only works about a certain throttle position or rev count.
Sadly the commitment of some retail staff isn't quite what you would hope. For some, it is a career and they are willing to invest the time to understand what they are selling but for some it is just a job in which they have no interest. Forums like this one are key to understanding the foibles and idiosyncrasies of what we spend out hard earned dosh on. Andy
Okay, so I'm going to take the bait. An experience shared in good faith is true to the sharer. Just because that experience might be unique doesn't make it any less true. Criticism of the Ducati slow riding capability is common (if IMO however unjustified) especially to new to Ducati riders who don't know what to expect. My point is that looking at forums can give you an awareness of other peoples' opinions and perceived issues. Andy
All it needs is to show a bit of mechanical sympathy for Ducati's excellent bikes I don't use the quickshifter when the bikes cold I don't use it below about 5,000 revs even when the bikes warm. When the bikes up to temp and your going for it on a nice flowing "brisk" ride tapping the quickshifter at 9 or 10k revs is effortlessly smooth The bike is telling you all this, ...start listening to it and recognise the signs when its not happy, it ain't difficult!! And above all.......don't be like these dumb American's on Youtube who "Chug" the bike around town in 4th gear at about 1,700 rpm and then complain about vibrations ffs!!
Sounds as if the staff at Riders are not particularly au fait with their products or with the greatest respect, that the OP is with most QShifters. I don't know anyone who uses them much below 5-6000rpm. Always viewed them as a seamless gateway to the next gear when you dont want to back off the throttle or when changing down rapidly through the box for corner entry. Never use it as some sort of low speed foot operated "paddle shift" as this is not, IMHO, it's intended use. In this environment, the clutch is king.
