The corbyn thing did surprise me. Apart from the election, you don't have to look too hard to find he's been all for leaving the eu most of his political life with plenty of references to find should you choose too.
Which is exactly why I kept asking clarity questions of those people who wanted to vote him in to power but were also huge pro EU supporters. It was such a contradictory vote, and seemingly not particularly well thought out. I guess it depends what is more important to you, the socialist policies of the Corbyn campaign or remaining in the EU. You couldn't have the opportunity for both because that wasn't what was on offer Once again we have a bunch of people who didn't win with one choice and so now they're back to protesting about another.
Its all about adversarial tribal politics. Remainers voted Corbyn not because that choice made any coherent political sense - clearly it does not: Corbyn is an anti-Euroepan of the Bennite school and always has been - but because they wished to punish "the other side". Its a matter of voting against "them" not for "this".
I think it confuses even more when he has sacked 3 of his shadow ministers last night for effectively still pushing the remain in the eu position by declaring they want to stay in the single market
Which is an extremely bizarre thing to do especially when they then carry on to moan about it. Honestly, some people simply don't think do they, it's as though they only want to cherry pick certain policies and ignore others. Now, who's been telling us we can't cherry pick for the last 12 months......Oh yes, the wonderful EU
I think you may well find that the remainers in the Tory party might well vote against their Party whip before March 2019.
Might well, I've heard, could be, suspiciously like, honest duke, most of the time your like one of those fairground mystics. Funny but very few facts
born in my grannies house cochran castle johnstone, you dont get much more Scottish than that. but does it matter where somebody hails from or where something is published?. only to the brexiteer it would seem. actually polls show its the main thing for a brexiteer. i forget the word, hmm, how do we label those kind of people again? hmm. *finger*smug grin*.
Translation: I have no idea what you people are talking about. finm, it's OK. Just say to yourself, "I helped!" and you'll be right as rain. Wrong, but right as rain.
thanks for the confirmation, sorry, clarification. *another smug grin* with a wee side serving of *finger*
They may well do, but that bares very little relevance to remain voters voting for Labour and then being annoyed by the fact that the party's stance is to continue with Brexit. Especially as had they looked past the free this, free that, and debt writes offs, that little nugget of Brexit info was there all along, they just refused to see it. I'm just gobsmacked that they're now moaning about something they voted for
As you may have seen, the House of Commons has just voted on an amendment to the Queen's Speech, tabled by Labour MP Chuka Umunna, calling on the UK to remain within both the EU single market and the customs union. The Corbyn leadership whipped Labour MPs to abstain (yet again), leading to confident predictions among the London commentariat that there would be a huge rebellion against Corbyn. Well, I don't know how we're supposed to define 'huge', but given that 75%+ of the PLP are known to be Corbyn-sceptic, and given that the vast majority of the PLP are also pro-European, I have to say I'm somewhat underwhelmed by just 49 of the 262 Labour MPs voting in favour of the amendment, which was defeated by more than 200 votes. No Tory MPs at all voted in favour, meaning that less than 16% of Commons members (even after the Speaker, Deputy Speakers and tellers are excluded) backed single market membership. We've been constantly told since election night that there is no majority in the Commons for leaving the single market, but I'm not sure what use it is having a 'silent majority' on your side if those people are not prepared to vote for what they believe in. Unless something dramatic changes, we are still heading for a very hard Brexit, meaning in turn that the prospect of Indyref 2 is simply not going to go away. again, no torys voted for, including the new 13 from up here.
Why would they fin, most of what you just put up is little more than Labour grandstanding for infighting between themselves Only 2 sides matter over the next 2 years in regards to the U.K., the U.K. government and the european government. Everyone else are like monkeys in a circus, a side attraction for their own entertainment to keep feeling important. There has never been a hard or soft brexit, just brexit and how the break is achieved has just as much to do with the the europeans as well as us. I understand your need for indi 2 fin but by the time it actually comes around again, I doubt Nic will even be there
and who knew you could swallow the line and sinker too. i take it you don't do blether?. it's all good. campaigning is over.
