British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. lol exactly... Denial is not just a river in T'Egypt lol
     
  2. Heh.
    There was no major rebellion against Corbyn because the PLP now sees him as a possible PM now, instead of an albatross around their neck.

    Most politicians don't care how they rule, only that they do rule. Most of the PLP these days are saying to themselves, Hey, maybe I was a Marxist all along and didn't realise it.
     
  3. in denial? up shit creek more like. yah grumpy so and so. anyhoo.
    yip. that's exactly what it said it that blog.
     
  4. I onna grumpy.. I got the result of the vote I cast and that was to leave the EU... I also got the result to the GE vote I cast as well. Good ere innit? lol
     
  5. 14 July is when the banks are required to tell the BofE their future Brexit plans. Might focus a few minds away from banning foreigners and on to more important matters.
     
  6. I'll see if I can give you what duke refuses to do, some facts with links rather than maybe's, might be, could be's that he is becoming and is well known for.:rolleyes:

    Basically Carney asked all financial institutions with a deadline of 14 July to explain how they are planning for the UK’s departure from the EU and warned them to be ready for all possible outcomes

    Those institutions will be exactly like our government, will have a number of possibilities with some having a spectrum even within those. Prudent planning and as much information as possible are always the tools of the best prepeared even more so between financial institutions and government

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/07/brexit-city-europe-carney-bank-of-england-uk-eu

    Now, when you try and find the eu doing the same thing, you won't find much. So just what is it that duke is inferring? who knows to be honest other than if a doom and gloom twist can be added to it, dukes ya man.
     
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  9. Whoops?

    I presume you'll some how link this to Brexit?

    When in fact many that voted for Brexit are the same people who can't get on the property ladder?

    The same property ladder and out of control house prices that 'the left' keep saying is a bad thing?

    So, is this a good or bad thing?
     
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  10. Your correct it's the same thing because it's the same report by the same bloke :rolleyes:

    He also worked for Fanny Mae in the states till 2003
     
  11. Its a good thing for many but it will knock the economy for six which makes it very difficult for anyone to get a mortgage.

    And it is Brexit linked as money is being withdrawn from London in big sums.
     
  12. And yet it's not a bad thing to happen.

    It's needed to happen for years and those Estate agents lying through their teeth whilst clicking their heels together saying 'house prices will keep going up, house prices will keep going up ' are pretty much to blame.

    House prices and getting on the property ladder are probably the biggest complaints of anyone right up to 40 years olds, in some cases older.

    The prices are simply way over inflated and so Brexit or not a crash was, or possibly more likely WILL happen.

    It's hardly rocket science
     
  13. So which way do you want it Duke?

    When you say 'money is being withdrawn from London in a big way', I can only presume you mean by foreign investment in property or possibly bankers/city boys?

    If not do you care to expand on that statement?

    I'm intrigued as to what is bad or good anymore?
     
  14. How so? the same professor that you thought was so rock on, said London is one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in. London who some think is the most expensive city in the world, isn't but often doomers and gloomers use Londons market as a reflection on the whole of the U.K. housing market when it clearly isn't. One thing is clear, ANY nations capital will always have more expensive housing than it's furthest corners.

    He also points to a circle of life if you will, in that drops in the housing market tend to happen every 12.5-15 years no matter what party is in charge.

    But rather than rely on your daily mail story duke why not listen to the man himself. 1.30 hours mind you but at the end apart from one or two points, I suggest one or two will say, you don't need a degree to work that out sherlock.

    If the market drops, it wil not crash such as 2008 but more likely to stagnate and then slowly reduce in price, we will get the first timers on board again to restart the market. Long term the real question is how do we stop this cycle

    And just to make sure, it's nothing to do with Brexit
     
  15. Our dukee just likes the bad one minute it's look at all them housing millionaires so no one can get on the ladder and the next is a price crash on houses will help no one, he's funny like that. Even the grim reaper said, fuck off duke your getting me down :D
     
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    I'm just so confused by it all, I mean even Jeremy Corbyn thinks that house prices have gone too far, he thought that back in April so can only presume he thinks that today.

    So one minute Brexit is bad, but now it's linked to a property price crash is it really still bad or is it good?

    How will the left compute this?

    Will they protest about the fall in property prices? Support the wealthy?

    Oh God, will this mean Tim Farron returns?

    All joking aside , Personally I feel they need to come down, not by a small amount either, at least 10% if not 15%

    Its just too inflated for those even on modest incomes, that's just the reality.
     
  17. An inflated population means inflated house prices and a housing shortage. That's what happens when you import 10 million surplus people into an already overcrowded country turning its capital city into a migrant transit camp and inflating prices further by allowing Russian mobsters and assorted despots and criminals to launder their plundered loot buying up all those prime properties which are not already owned by the Duke of Westminster.
     
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  18. On the second part Gim. I'm not too convinced. It's a bit like saying if the Russian and Chinese billion and millionaires weren't buying Veyrons, we could all have one. The type of properties the super rich folk buy would probably never have been built in the first place were it not for the market they needed.

    One thing I feel is wrong is a lot of this land often started off being council Land and lets be honest, council negotiators are shite. Personally I would sell council land but retain a share in the land so an income comes from the developer every year helping for low cost building for council and social housing. Instead they sell it outright with no income from it.

    If Sadiq got his shit together and declared that no council land will be sold to developers unless the council retained say 10% or even 5% of the revenue throughout it's life time, then developers would see a united from from councils across London and would then be investing in raising funds for the lower end of the market
     
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  19. That's not what I'm saying at all. Property is not the same as a consumer durable like a car because what it being bought and sold is not a renewable commodity, it is land and space, and as someone said, they're not making that any more.
    Russian oligarchs buying Veyrons in Knightsbridge does not put up the price of a Nissan Micra in the west country of the home counties. Allowing foreign billionaires to use London's property market as a private hedge fund by permitting anyone with the cash to buy citizenship and create asset portfolios buying up huge tracts of the capital's real estate in a bidding war inevitably inflates prices across the market and everyone feels the heat.
    Those who can become landlords to those who can't or they cash in and move out of London taking that price inflation with them and so it spreads like a contagion.
     
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