I think what it does is highlight that as far as the eu are concerned, peoples democratic earned right to vote, is of no consequence to them unless the vote result is in the eu's favour, and when it isn't the result they want, they will force continual elections till the electorate does as they are told. Despite the eu being seen by some as the bastion of democracy, the last thing the eu wants, is a democracy by the people and for the people.
i think it actually says people are allowed to change there minds once the campaigners bluster is replaced with reality.
Hmmmmm........8 examples of the undemocratic EU at it's finest. Although apparently all of these democratic votes were overturned or ignored completely because of the bluster of those on the other side of the argument differs from the wishes of the EU elite. Interesting. It's no wonder you lap up the lies of Helmet Head and Porky Chops with glee.
giving people a vote is now undemocratic? i see the first vote was 25years ago, why haven't they changed their democratic minds?. why didnt the shysters use Denmark as an example of European ruin? still has its own currency too? brw herbus, we are not to talk about our northern region.
What's undemocratic (its hard to believe this needs to be explained) is a refusal by the political class to accept and enact a clear majority vote when it is returned. Failing to respect the result of a ballot and insisting that the vote is re-run until you get the result you want (which under the law of averages is likely to happen if you keep it up for long enough) is anti-democracy. It is a direct and explicit rejection of the principles of democracy and no different to a dictator claiming a democratic mandate in a one-party state. Referendums are not the same as general elections. Surely that doesn't need to be explained as well?
but a snap election after a whole year of saying the opposite is held up as a fine example of democracy? a cooling off period is acceptable in just about every minor personal financial arrangement going and seeing as lying and slandering is perfectly legal during the campaign phase (see Orkney 4 v Alister Carmichael) i cant think of a better way to put the shysters to the test.
So if we have a majority vote that reverses Brexit now everyone knows the real facts then that is undemocratic? What a strange planet some of you live on. A planet that obviously you believe only you live on.
As usual Duke, its just you alone on your little planet far, far away: Boost for May as Remainers back a hard exit The Daily Telegraph 12 Aug 2017 By Jack Maidment POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT THE majority of Remain voters now back a hard Brexit and believe that Britain should take control of its borders, end the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice and pay little or nothing to leave the European Union. A survey of more than 20,000 people by the London School of Economics and Oxford University found that 53 per cent of Remain voters back a hard Brexit over a soft Brexit. The news represents a significant boost to Theresa May and her ambition of uniting the country behind her Brexit strategy in the wake of the EU referendum vote. It comes in the run-up to the publication of position papers by the Government next week which will set out Britain’s stance on key aspects of Brexit. The Yougov survey suggests there is now little difference between Remain and Leave voters on some of the most contentious issues of the EU referendum. A total of 51.3 per cent of Remain voters backed a Brexit deal which delivers full control over migration and leads to lower numbers of EU migrants. The survey also suggests that Remain voters agree with Boris Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, that the EU should “go whistle” for a big Brexit divorce bill. A total of 54.7 per cent of Remain voters and 56.9 per cent of Leave backers said that they did not think the UK should hand over any money to the EU. The position is in contrast to that of Britain’s Brexit negotiators, who are prepared to hand over a divorce bill of more than £36billion. There is also a significant endorsement of Mrs May’s “red line” that Britain will leave the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice – 52.2 per cent of Remain voters said they would support a deal in which Britain adopts some EU laws but is no longer subject to the European Court of Justice. Close to 60 per cent of Leave voters supported the same outcome. Thomas Leeper, one of the authors of the report from the London School of Economics, said: “One of the things we were most intrigued by in these results was the degree to which Remain voters are willing to accept Brexit and the specific features of Brexit that Leave voters care the most about, such as legal sovereignty and control over immigration.”
Why would we have another vote? We've already had a vote in case you've missed it. I'm sure you haven't, you've talked of little else for over a year. How many votes do you want? Now that everyone has seen through 'Project Fear' and knows the real facts (apart for yourself), there is an ever increasing appetite from the general public to get on with it and get out, as seen by the latest polls. Be careful what you wish for, the Remainians would get a very big shock in the event of a 2nd vote now that people are used to the idea.
nice bit of spin there, it also went on to say only 37% believe she will delver. yip we actually do want what you promised but we don't believe you can. i guess the BUM can only do so much eh?
What real facts duke, be honest, most of yours are not real that is why you continually resort to cooks from america on facebook. The whole idea of an election is no matter what one side says what, it is down to the individual to make a choice and based on that personal choice, they vote for what they feel works for them. Even now your style is well I was better informed, anyone who voted for brexit will ill informed, lied too, stupid, xenphphobic, racist, not university educated and the excuses go on but one thing stands proud. For those who voted for a democratic vote, their vote was the important one, those who hate democracy unless it is their version, then they bemoan democracy unless it is their personal shopping tool You even say, unless we have another vote because we lost then that is undemocratic but if you had a second vote and won and the now losing side asked for the same "let's go another round" you would deny them that opportunity wouldn't you? And fin be honest, if indi had said yes to scotland leaving the u.k. you would have been the first one to cry it's the democratic vote and we don't need another one because the minority are greeting. It's a simple process, we all listen to as much as we can, we vote, we get the result, we honour it, even if we do not agree with all of it and we get things done. We had a vote, brexit has begun and in whatever form it will be carried out. There will not be a second vote
https://getbritainout.org/blog/ Here you go Fin. I know you just love a good blog, here's 92 pages of them all wholesome and healthy instead of the drivel you have been polluting your mind with and some of them have probably been written in somerset. Enjoy.
The Torygraph. That pillar of good, honest unbiased journalism. Put money on it, we will still have another vote.
Somebody call the police. Some normal, intelligent, well-adjusted grown-ups have broken into Dookie's house and they're using his computer.
And what happens when a second referendum returns an even bigger majority for leave? When do we have the third referendum, or the fourth...?
