Hate? No. Too storng a wod. I don't think like you do. I know you are wrong though and i also know most of it is built on xenophobia and racism.
its funny watching some of you lot jump up and down when ever the topic is raised. its the one with tears in his eyes that is gonna kill you that raised the topic, i can provide you with pages and pages and pages of leading figures, historians, politicians many high ranking. ducati forum members happily calling me and others allsorts including nazi in an attempt to silence and curtail democracy , yet not a peep, silence, nada. use the word britnat up pops the usual suspects with faux outrage. crazy kids. hypocritical kids.
You've just demonstrated precisely the hate I was referring to, as I knew you would which was why I dangled the bait. You have no idea how I think. All you know is that I voted differently to you in the referendum and probably the general election. Beyond that you know nothing whatever and all your subsequent assumptions about my motivation are based on political hatred, bigotry and fear of people who think differently to you. In other words, you accuse me of all the faults which deep down you know are your own, which was precisely my original point. Whatever you do, don't ever become a politician. You are so transparent you'll be eaten alive.
I was just impressed his hatred was so deep that he could spell xenophobia and racism but struggled with strong and word
why do use that like its some kind of weapon? could it be because you are genuinely ignorant of my motives or are you looking to introduce nationalism back in to the discussion?. is it an insult now to be called British?
I've talked to enough people to know it is the case for many people. Amazing how many think that everything will be rosy when Britain is only full of British people, despite the fact that many of them are actually the biggest problem this country has. Don't want to work. Don't want to pay tax.
You still talking to the American cook on facebook? Do I need to buy a hat? Weapon? fin don't go all snowflake safe space on me. I mentioned British as simply in many discussions, certainly in the other thread and this one, you have on many occasions continued to ignore you are British, live in Britain and despite saying the snp and Scotland will save me, the deal we get will be for all Brits As to the Brits now being an insult? your cute when you try the reverse of the reverse, rubbish at it but cute
hmm,safe space?. you really should take me up on my several offers to check out the decor. so, its the old British thing you like to keep throwing out there. like being British is a thing. strange. always with the labels these days. and it seems some dont like it up em. anyhoo, whats yer thoughts.noob. on intoodeeps nazi imagery? i agreed. yourself?.
I just might fin, you never know. As to the Britain thing in regards to the topic of the thread, Romans called us Britannia, even Aristotle recognised Great Britain as do most of the world, nato, the u.n. but more importantly in regards to the thread, so does the eu. so it's not a label as such fin but more of a wake up call to both remainers and brexiteers that the eu don't care if we are Welsh, Northern Irish, English or Scottish, the eu want to give us the worst deal for us and the best deal for themselves and it's about time some stopped trying to tear the U.K. apart at a time were unity is needed. It really is them versus Britain in this agreement and coming together is not jingoism or nationalism but more of, as always, there are times we need to come together for the common good and this agreement is one of those times, before we go back to taking the piss out of each other. The nazi imagery, Godwins law mentions "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches" Most of those on the alt right seem to want to go back to a time not always of racism or hate but more of an ordered society of days gone by where courtesy, respect and knowing where they stood, existed. Look at that march, The majority classified as alt right racists, kkk and white supremist's, were NOT wearing white hoods or carrying nazi nonsense That might seem odd but to assume all alt right wear a hood or carry a swastikas is to also assume all muslims have a suicide vest and to be honest as an example, many brexiteers have been called alt right and grouped with the kkk, white supremists by the anti fascists just for having a different view to them. I voted one way, accepted others voted another, there is no nazi flag in my house no matter how hard the alt left anti fascists want to put one there The other thing is the term alt right, some would have believe it is a bad thing which is why the do gooders are fighting to not accept their term, the alt left. The term alt is a to divide term, I have said before far too many are trying to divide and divide and divide for no other reason to then hate other groups as those seeking to divide us, need the bogie man to allow that divide by claiming to be oppressed, often the leaders of these groups rely on hate, bigotry to promote themselves through the ranks The anti fascist are some of the biggest fascists on the planet. Unless you agree with them they will seek to shut you down, find where you live and work and try and intimidate you at home and work,cost you your job etc The anti fascists seek to rewrite history by trying to whitewash it and never accept they are as equally responsible for the escalation of hate and violence . Good examples mostly in the states but some universities in the U.K. trying to be wannabee black lives matters where they are trying to rewrite history in their own image rather than see them as history that was and to use that to change the future. Finishing with a Hitler connection, Most of us understand that places like Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz remain as symbols of what happened and what should never happen again The anti fascists would tear them down for not being diverse enough so we need to remove the history that allowed it whilst at the same time of accusing everyone else being a nazi. The anti fascists are the ones going into universities trying to re-write history, removing books and intimidating those who do not sing the anti facist mantra. So what have the last few paragraphs got to do with brexit? For SOME remainers with the "you brextards are to stupid to vote, are racist, xenphobic, homophobic, didn't know what you voted for " then lightnings post kind of sums it up apologies for the rant
Thank you. Someone else has recognised that "hard-lefties", more properly known as Progressives, are the modern fascists. I thought it was just me who thought this.
Fascism is a big circle that ends up joining back up at the bottom. Hard left/hard right are pretty much the same thing. Stalin and Hitler had a lot of similarities. Exterminate your opponents, don't let people think for themselves, use Nationalism to make people turn on each other.
thats an awful lot of words noob to say yer sorry, and that you just get carried away in the heat of the moment, i think most of my thoughts and opinions re brexit and indi have been propagated and shaped by a unionist media using drip drip propaganda, lies and smear, exploiting and deliberately confusing patriotism, nationalism and colonialism , now in retrospect i accept that for centuries and particularly the last 10yeaers the British establishment with considerable help from the MSM or BUM as its becoming increasingly known by has been attempting to silence debate within the uk because compared to indi, brexit is just walk in the park. they way i see it, in many ways you have just described the British state.
I did get carried away fin more than usual so apologies. My main point was that the far left/alt left are far more dangerous than any other group because they try and sell fascism as social justice. Back on subject, on the Irish border, the U.K. government keeps taking a bit of a beating but there is little they can do. The eu has it written within their own statutes that where there is a non eu country meeting an eu country, there must be a border so no matter what the U.K. does or what Ireland want's, the border of the eu is decided by the eu and we have nothing to do with that. We can decide what we want on our side but the eu insist on a border control http://ec.europa.eu/immigration/what-should-i-avoid/how-to-enter-the-eu/crossing-the-eu-borders_en
I'll take your list and condense it .U.K. no longer has ask the eu to do anything within the U.K. the end. But, Today I took my ex wife to her country pile hotel for her wedding tomorrow to her soon to be new husband who I get on with well enough with that I am staying at their house for a long weekend to look after their dog. During the time I was married to her at the beginning it was great then after 15 years both realised things had changed, life's movements had meant we had little in common anymore so we decided to call it a day. As usual when lawyers and beurocrats become involved to line their own pockets, the divorce had it's unpleasant moments but within a couple of years we managed to find the friendship we had before the relationship started and it remains strong. You posted the comedic list duke but it highlights the same thing, a good start amongst friends that as things evolved has become quite embittered to a point that maybe just we are right to leave. We are a trading nation and had the eu remained a trading agreement between friends them I'm sure we would have remained but instead they turned into a federal government. So maybe our relationship will return as a friend now we are to be apart, rather than the squabbling we had years of? Once the divorce has settled down and the dust has settled, I suspect the relationship between us will be better and a more workable one.
