You don't need to spend so much money when you break the lock stops. You can buy R&G ones that attach to the upper fairing stay holes for £16.99 and not worry about repairing the stock ones It's worth anyone who is tracking a Panigale fitting these straight away to give some protection against damaging the factory lock stops. http://www.rg-racing.com/browsebike/Ducati/899_Panigale/2014/LS0005/
Yep I’ve got these, does mean you can’t use the steering lock though obviously. So no good on the road. I know this is a silly statement but I’ve been asked a number of times about them
@royalwithcream Can you expand on the Panigale neutral throttle low side for those that are unaware of this bad habit?
Dave is more knowledgeable on this subject than myself but... The weight transfer from the neutral throttle and the twins characteristics can cause the front to load and wash out. The purpose of the tank extender is to force the rider back in the seat thus reducing the weight transfer and keeping your weight further back.
As well as the front end bias releasing way too much weight off the rear and that causes rear end traction loss. I suspect some of the ‘front end’ washouts start like that. Hence pushing weight back.
Yeah, the panigales are naturally rather ‘flamboyant’ under braking. Can be a little alarming at first but as you know, you get used to it pretty quickly.
Makes having the rider as ballast in the right place even more crucial. Simon Crafar vid on straight-arm braking is quite enlightening and different to advice over the years and is to help keep the rear down on all bikes as the braking power is just so good
So.......my understanding so far, mid corner, bike is in a stable state but for the panigale that means the front still has to much load? So you compensate by moving weight back or can you avoid by slow progressive throttle?
So if a neutral throttle is "causing the front to wash out" how are you supposed to enter a corner on a closed throttle? Something sounds a bit odd here TBH...
Totally. Being on the brakes and off throttle helps grip. It’s the transition that may be the issue: and when the rear starts to lose a bit of grip and pushes the front that is already unloading (if that makes sense) @IanR search for Motovudo, he has started doing free short videos in recent months, I think maybe ,art of his Suzuki promotion deal. Some really useful, free, quick stuff
Yep. It’s closing the throttle when the fronts loaded and banked over that’s the problem. There’s no black magic going on here chaps, I’ve nearly lost the front from exactly this.
Is this becaue you have already come off the brakes and have transitioned to adding gas, then chop the throttle again?
My interpretation from above is that the problem occurs when your coming off the throttle into a neutral throttle state, so the front is unloading. But wouldnt moving the weight back over the rear wheel make this worse?
When you come off the throttle, the engine braking and loss of squat on the rear suspension, pitches the bike towards the nose more and loads the front tyre
Yeah but that's a closed throttle not a neutral throttle. A neutral throttle maintains the bike's attitude.
