British Indy: What Happens Now?

Undemocratic, nah, unwise probably yes.

What if another vote is equally split on the popular options. Does the marginal victory carry the day or do we spend 2 more years saying it wasn't enough of a mandate or have another vote.

Or is that the plan, kick it down the road ?

 

Because it’s not been thought through or planned for and any changes to what is effectively 50 % of all UK imports and a similar percentage of our exports WILL encounter significant change from the way they are currently dealt with resulting in delays and additional costs. No business would ever want to encounter additional delays or costs In anything they do as that money will have to be found from somewhere. And in most businesses that will mean reducing wage costs.

As to the possibility of setting a zero tariff on EU imports, yes the UK could do that but it means that the UK would have to give the same deal to every other Country in the world. That could have severe consequences to jobs in the UK.

 

Absolutely as it removes the reason for the vote. It sets a precedent that democratic votes can keep going and going and going until the losing side gets it's own way.

Democratic votes work because you have an election, both sides make noise but at the end the person who goes into the voting booth makes their own choice. If you now say no matter what the result is it will be challenged and challenged and challenged then there is no point in democratic votes at all

 

But that logic is never applied to any other public vote. The conservatives squeaked the last election win but it stands.

I know the remain camp like to float the idea that Brexit voters were conned by Boris etc but no one with half a brain believes 1/10 of what a politician promises or what's on a bus.

If we go down that road will any vote ever be binding and I suspect there will still be a fairly mixed result should we have another vote. Some will switch, mainly because UK plc has made a complete mess of it so far (possibly not by accident). Bad practice does not mean the idea is bad just shit people implementing it.

 

which proves the point, some business's do not like working in a democracy where people use democracy and their one last voice as a free people, a democratic vote, is seen as an inconvenience to business's profits and shareholders dividends.

showing your simple one sided range again. wto deals are negotiated throughout the world, are you saying that any country with wto agreements have exactly the same for one country as they do for the rest? if you are I'm going to call you out

The eu itself uses wto and free trade deals, the deal with Australia is different from the deal with Canada and the deal with Kenya, so your point as usual duke, is your usual horse shit

 

You point out that a significant proportion of current trade is non-EU. This all takes place every day through every port in the UK with no delay under normal world trading conditions. What's the doomsday scenario you're subscribing too?

 

We won't? Mon dieu

You seem to forget the minute we leave, go to free trade and wto we can simply say to non eu countries, keep the same agreements in operational basis and we can talk about new agreements. This will allow us to ease from old to new whilst keeping outside of the eu countries trading with us.

The key that seems to be offensive to some remainers is that "we can choose". Personally I'd like to see, you charge us 0% tariffs, we'll charge you 0% tariffs fair tariffs work, I believe that is one of the options forwarded to the eu by the U.K.

for some, I can imagine them also hiding under desks at this

 

You subscribe to that? Ask if the whole of German industry is going to pull the plug on trade. As for the Aljabeeba spreading the doom today in relation to the NHS. We'll be believing toady adonis next.

 

Repent you sinners who dare to think you can operate outside the cartel....

 

Enlighten. Why can we not trade after Brexit?

 

The beeb as an impartial source? I'd put more credence in wings over.

 

The remain broadcasting company, must be true. Either way it makes no odds to the outcome of the vote because it's been and gone. There was more than enough time to debate pre vote and we are where we are.

It's all comes down to the establishment having no concept of losing and is now trying to re invent the rules of engagement. If that happens it will come back to haunt this country and they know it. Hence why we have the fudge of chequers. Tell them it's cheddar but it's really cheese slices. Looks like cheese but is full of bad things.

 

The wee J'oby (silver spooned socialist "I go to churchist"). The guy being quoted here is a total incompetent and surprised he's survived in business. Thousands of entries are made for goods coming through the UK's ports and airports every single day from outside the EU. A significant proportion, probably over 98% are cleared as soon as the entry is made. All done through systems dating back to the 70s. No paperwork just solid electronic trading. All intra-EU trade is subject to VAT and Intra Stat declarations. It is not without a degree of shipper/consignee input. Adjusting the systems is already underway.

Hey, but let's continue to listen to project fearsters. After all each and every one of their predictions has been proven...

 

Shhhhh don’t let the reality get in the way of dreamers.

All UK imported and exported trade is currently done as a member of the EU and under EU law regardless of who it is with.

That would cease to be the case next April if there is no agreement.

 

The answer is that all sides have too much to lose for everyone to simply fall back to the trenches and not talk to each other.

It just suits certain political agenda's to not admit it.