V4 Dwc..just How Good Is It?

Discussion in 'Panigale' started by A016738, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. I'm hopelessly inept but hoping technology can help me learn to wheelie at least a little.

    Anyone put DWC really to the test? Always been afraid of looping my bikes in the past and as a result have never had the sac to just cover the rear brake and loft her up. With the PV4 and wheelie control I've started to dabble in it again. Question is...is it still possible to overdo it and loop your bike even with DWC on? I'm not talking about popping the clutch under full throttle in first gear...I'm talking about turning DWC down to say #2, and power wheelieing in second gear by chopping and opening the throttle at say 6k rpm. I'm to the point where she lifts maybe a foot off the ground but I let off for fear it will come up too quick. If I could be reasonably certain that DWC will prevent that from happening and will start to curtail the power as the angle increases I'd be less apt to hold back.

    I realize wheelie control is not meant to electronically allow me to do controlled wheelies...but if I knew just how effective the safety net was I'dbe more apt to explore it. And I'm not attempting 12 o'clocks or balance point stuff...I understand DWC has to be completely off for any of that...I'm just looking to do some controlled reliable say 9-10:00 type shenanigans. (or 2:-3:00 if you're going the there direction LOL).

    Can't find a real good technical explanation of the DWC feature anywhere. KTM does a fantastic video about theirs but I'm assuming not all WC features are created the same across the manufacturers.
     
    #1 A016738, Apr 14, 2021
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  2. I have the V2 and its the same system, put the system in DWC 1 and the bike will help you fool other people that you can pop shorter wheelies. It will not allow the bike to flip over even if you mash the throttle in first gear.

    the more aggressive you are the harder the system will cut the wheelie so if you bring it up controlled you can maintain the wheelie and even shift into 3rd gear and continue but you have to keep giving it gas.

    So don't worry, as long as the system is set to at least 1 it won't allow you to flip the bike.
    Its a much more advanced system than KTM which I believe only have a ON/OFF system?
     
  3. Fantastic...exactly the feedback I was looking for. thanks for the reply!
     
  4. Goodluck - like to hear how u get on.....
     
  5. .... and do post some video of how it goes. minus your reg number of course ;)
     
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  6. Works really well ime. Bigger risk of losing sideways that upwards
     
  7. Not read the manual yet ? But can I turn dwc off in all modes ?
    i usually have traction on but wheelie control off on bikes I’ve had it on .
     
  8. Pretty sure you can turn DWC off completely independent of all the other electronic aids.
     
  9. I await the first story of buttons not been pressed correctly....ET impressions abound
     
  10. Ducati are very good at this, industry leading. If they fit electronics, you tend to be able to turn it all off.
     
  11. I can't comment on the V4 but on the 1299 it works well, I've got it selected on the +/- toggles on the LH switchgear for when on track. You can imagine coming out of a tight hairpin onto a straight at full throttle it can get a bit lively, I use the toggles so I can adjust on the fly for those scenarios.
     
  12. Seriously are you hoping to learn to wheelie on your V4?

    Why not go to any number of 'Learn to Wheelie' schools and use one of their bikes? Learn to stay up in a straight line, rather than fly off to one side and cartwheel, or barrel roll your V4? DWC won't keep you upright! A couple of hundred bucks and someone else's bike, would be my advice. Once you've 'got it', your shiny, new, pristine, V4 awaits...
     
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  13. I found it really useful and predictable on the '16 R. My local track in Sweden had a "mini cadwell mountain" followed closely by a 180 deg hairpin.
    I could have the DWC set so that I could nail it up over the crest, floating a steady wheelie and the electronics would bring it down just in time to hit the brakes for the turn. Never worried about flipping it, which is great for me as I hate wheelies.
     
  14. Would do this in a heartbeat! Unfortunately, compared to Europe, these schools are few and far between in the states and even more rare (read - nonexistent) in my part of the country. Probably has to do with the 5 month riding season and the uptight nanny culture here. Schools are all in California...and I'm about as far away from there as one can manage.

    I also would buy a beater to practice on, but if wife puts 2 and 2 together and discovers I've bought another bike to learn to be a hooligan on, it would be the end of my primary bike also.
     
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