Electric Vehicles - The New Future?

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, Apr 10, 2021.

  1. 100%. So it’s tracked, recorded audio and visual and I bet my life savings (£4.78), they can pull this data remotely.
     
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  2. My BMW would update remotely
     
  3. How much is it? Have you rushed out and ordered one?

    Very impressive figures. I wonder if they're 'facts' you so crave? I somehow doubt it. Judged on previous range figures I'd say you could probably half that figure.

    And I wonder how much a new battery bank is.... ooof :punch: The electric dream will fall apart. Mark my words. Politicians are shit engineers, they don't understand stuff. And talk a lot of rubbish of course. Especially lefty types pushing this net zero shite :D
     
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  4. i have a Volvo XC40 hybrid in order - company car

    just to let you know
    Less rare Earth metals
    Uses graphite
    More durable
    Faster charging
    Average speed 55mph on the trip

    Mercedes have a 900km prototype.
     


  5. i find it odd that fact checks go against people I know that run companies and work in the industry are saying.

    Surely data wouldn’t be manipulated in order to sway public opinion would it…. Surely not… I can’t imagine that happening… after the last few years..

    The guys I know in power state that the U.K. is struggling to cover demand this winter as it is. The U.K. has no plans to expand on this at current, they want to move away from coal fired but aren’t building any nuclear stations.
    i know I’m just a guy from the internet, but id be very wary about listening to anything from news outlets and the government after what we’ve all been through/are going through with them.

    cop 26 was a prime example, 400 was it it? Private jets landing in Scotland and a fleet of iPace jags supplied by jlr to move the delegates around. Government hired a shit load of diesel generators to charge them :joy:
    - sounds like progress :laughing:


    If by doing the right thing on paper means you end up making problems worse or indeed no better, what is the point. We live in a scary society now where we have context-less data, data which is fixed to support agendas and the public who have lost any logic or common sense.

    I guess this is not a new thing. Diesel was a similar thing, that was pushed on everyone as the latest and greatest and people knew back then that it was not good for the environment

     
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  6. I guess you didn't watch Dispatches on CH4, Hybrids produce more pollution that petrol/diesel especially when cold.
     
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  7. I don’t get to choose my car
    On Local trips my engine never gets used
     
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  8. Are UK power network has been on the verge of brown outs for at least 20 years.

    Is anyone who is worried about enough power to charge cars he’s going to go mental when they find out that there also needs to be enough power to heat homes, businesses, industry et cetera.

    Scotland is well ahead on Renewable generation. England is catching up


    • Confirming offshore wind will produce more than enough electricity to power every home in the country by 2030, based on current electricity usage, boosting the government’s previous 30GW target to 40GW.
    • Creating a new target for floating offshore wind to deliver 1GW of energy by 2030, which is over 15 times the current volumes worldwide. Building on the strengths of our North Sea, this brand new technology allows wind farms to be built further out to sea in deeper waters, boosting capacity even further where winds are strongest and ensuring the UK remains at the forefront of the next generation of clean energy.
    • Setting a target to support up to double the capacity of renewable energy in the next Contracts for Difference auction, which will open in late 2021 - providing enough clean, low cost energy to power up to 10 million homes
    These commitments are the first stage outlined as part of the Prime Minister’s ten-point plan for a green industrial revolution, which will be set out fully later this year. This is expected to include ambitious targets and major investment into industries, innovation and infrastructure that will accelerate the UK’s path to net zero by 2050.
     
  9. Hybrid is worst of both worlds and simply a company car tax dodge. And not electric. I’d have hybrid because I know it’s exactly the same as a petrol would be and I can get fuel anywhere, any time (apart from when beeb and MSM whip up false stories of shortages of course).

    In 10 years we’ll be paying huge a amounts for electric and have power shortages, with the richer on society being ok as they will simply fit own-source power. Be that solar, wind or diesel generators ;)
     
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  10. What a world our kids will live in. One where the beautiful hills and coats of such a beautiful place as much of Scotland will be littered with glaring panels and big fans. Hideous.
     
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  11. You're so full of shit. Oooh goody, the Merc 900km prototype! Have you looked at it? Have you seen how much it costs? Crack on, sucker :rolleyes:
     
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  12. I love local chips
     
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  13. Not only will electric be priced through the roof, road tax on any remaining ICE vehicles, once ICE vehicles are no longer produced will be astronomical. As will the fuel for them. The average Joe will be forced to move to electric, whether they like it or not.
     
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  14. Tax is already on the rise.

    Looks like the gov are looking to tax hybrids and electrics as well. Grants have also reduced on them weirdly.
     
  15. Hybrids = worse solution available, petrol engine is usually underpowered and you're having to lug around a stack of heavy batteries for the green party!

    Tax will increase for hybrids and EV's as more adoption happens, the government has just reduced the grant to £1500 with a limit of £35K I think, so all of the incentives are slowly being eroded. I guess as the company car drivers are adopting for the BIK tax breaks, it's going to be increasingly hard to convince Joe Public to buy an EV as for most the cost is prohibitive.

    Obviously we are a long way away from ICE cars never being on the road, and between now and that date tax will increase to "enforce" the adoption of EV rather than buy a 2nd hand ICE car... but there's probably X million current road users who probably have never been in a position to buy a new car, so will always either be taxed to the hilt buying a 2nd hand ICE vehicle, or buying a very leggy EV with crap range. Then you have the elderly who buy small cars to pootle to the shops etc, fiesta's, KA's, corsa's etc they will be forced off the road for the same reasons. An EV corsa starts at £26K from memory, if you're retired are you going to fund a £26K EV or buy a cheap ICE runaround?

    There's lots that just hasn't been considered at the coal face, not the bigger elements like charging network etc.
     
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  16. I don’t get to choose my car. We all get the exact same car.

    it wouldn’t be my choice but on the other hand it is sitting at 79mpg and I do a lot of trips of 400 miles or more. On the weekend I can do what I need to do without using any diesel.

    wind power is being moved offshore so isn’t a problem for aesthetics. Would you consider pylons to be attractive?
     
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  17. i don’t think my 2.4litre 5 cylinder diesel hybrid is underpowered. It cost £38k and has all the toys in it. That’s less than a Merc e220 diesel and my V60 would be off before the Merc knew where it went. My bosses V60 T8 is definitely not underpowered.
     

  18. You are so impolite.

    Do you have a problem with knowing how technology is advancing?

    do you think many people will buy a Tesla with 1200km range? I think very few people will. What the test demonstrates is the leap forward in battery technology. It’s application will most likely be in vans, trucks and buses. Demonstrating it in a known vehicle that people are used to gives an easy to understand (for some anyway) metric as to the scale in technical advance. Big Soz that seems to have passed you by.
     
  19. £5Bn hole in tax Revenues unless they increase taxes on electric/hybrid vehicles. So they will have to rise
     
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