Does anyone know if the high flow injector on the 1098R is the same as the injector used on the 1198S? I can't find anything conclusive on the net confirming which of the two 1098R injectors is used on the 1098/1198 engines Thanks in advance Andy
I always go to Ducati Omaha’s OEM parts fiche to check things. https://www.ducatiomaha.com/pages/d...B1hAeHG7pFYUE8sfY5atMj4ienMjyEu3VEmEaQFlWcE41 The following parts listing suggests the 1098R injector 28040151A was used on a number of other bikes https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/ducati-parts/28040151a
Cheers. I've just checked on the bike-parts-ducati.com website & can see that the 1098R uses the 28040151A & the 28040161A injectors the 1198S uses the 28040161A injector which I think is the high flow 12 hole injector
Looks like you have ID’d the 12 hole. The 28040161A is an IWP189 https://www.bikesportdevelopments.co.uk/iwp189---weber-magneti-marelli-pico-fuel-injector---510ccmin Came across this one for sale on Amazon. Worth a punt???? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Injector-28040161A-Motorcycle-M-agneti-Gasoline/dp/B0BZR1YS3S
has anyone on here tried these Chinese equivalents yet^? - many for sale on EBay also, some with naughty M-agnetti worded implications. as Chris says, i would "take a punt" if i really needed a couple. I saw some on EBay branded Magneti Marelli for around £31 (plus £4 approx postage) also. seller claims only 2 left. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135277543271?_skw=IWP189&itmmeta=01JAHPW205RPQC1Y9ARJT7R5M2&hash=item1f7f2b7f67:g:lR0AAOSwE5tm-kb-&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAAwHoV3kP08IDx+KZ9MfhVJKmW6p3rdSgZIr1o4Sqz6z4Ct2kjuwdeYWC0h4VY8vItAYAs/XyeNOYxiP8DDMZQovV7PZjH7HQkejAqE8FykbQQMBskS/uFtDHAGXvns8T9NEEfi63JjLUABYpzIW+oOGmCvf0yZF3626WT0kO+9rqjaHD+GPUdZUYmi73InwKn9Ji2eYcMdJmfXAF4Mph2/DyQoZ1bbaHLpo0KB006S7NhqP73Ay1jK10T0SE34DVjDQ==|tkp:Bk9SR5ag8LbUZA
Take a punt on the secondary IWP162 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bordhap-Fu...-7-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1
I have tried chinese 12 hole injectors. You need an individual mapping for each cilinder as the injectors have different fuel volume. These chinese replicas are not equal to each other. Also they don't last long. both injectors failed after an while.
More fuel more power tbh. The engine already has larger air intakes, less restrictive air filters & it's been remapped & set up on a dyno. I'm not chasing (HP) numbers just thought with higher flow injectors it would give more scope to tune the engine.
FYI, CJS did my old 1198 (full 70mm termi, filter etc) he got 171 rwbhp and 98 Ft/lb...which was plenty
Interesting conversation gents My remap was done by BSD, fitted one of their close ratio boxes too, with similar readings as Bootsam's bike (172hp & 99ft/lb torque) As the bike is coming up to 30,000 miles I was going to give it a freshen up & while looking for the injector part number to order replacements, I noticed one of the 1098R injectors was the same as the one fitted in the 1198S, hence my original question. I was never going to fit a 1098R system but if the other injector (which I now know is the lower flow injector) did have a higher flow rate than the injector in the 1198S it would have been a relatively cheap upgrade to work with.
@Andy 1198, i see you cerakoted your 70 like I did my old one. If you cut a 50mm x 70mm sheet of that fiberglass silver heat shield material, edge it with some gaffa tape to stop it fraying and put it over the inside of your right calf secured with one of those medical sock things, you will not get 3rd degree burns from the exhaust.
;-) it does kick out some heat, i've got little legs so when i stop I put my left foot down & move my right leg away from the heat
