V4 Did You Go From A Multi V4s To A V4 Pikes Peak And If So Why?

I've not owned a V4S, but have ridden a few before getting my V4PP, and the Pikes Peak is a much more fun, agile bike, and feels smaller than the V4S. I know one person on here that's going to disagree with me, but ignore him; I'm right and he's wrong!

Edit - I’ve had over 30 bikes, in nearly 15 years of riding, and the Pikes Peak is the only one I can’t imagine what to replace it with. Everything else leaves me cold. I’m waiting to see if they facelift it this year, as I’d like to change it next year as it’ll be 3 years old, but have heard rumors it’ll be discontinued. I hope those are just rumors.

 

I haven't owned or even ridden a V4s, but went to one bike, a V4PP, from a Multi 1260s and a 1299s, much prefer the PP to the 1260, and for me it's more fun on the road than the 1299. I've tracked my PP a few times, done the NC500 and many other rides, done about 5500 miles so far this year, it is a very good bike. I'm sure the V4s is also very good, but I wanted to hold onto a bit of sportiness, the PP does this, 17" front, wider rear, and it's got gold shiney suspension. You won't regret either, but the PP is better!

 

I moved from a Panigale V4S a Multi V4S to the V4 PP.
The Multi V4S was a fantastic bike, but wanted to just have the one bike.

Power wise theres very little difference between the Multi V4S and V4PP, the V4 PP has a Race map. Handling the V4S was great and I loved it, I thought it was awesome for the size of the bike. Moving to the PP I found its even better! I've only been riding since Dec 2020, I went through a mid life crisis at 50! Anyway I've owned numerous bikes, S1000RR Sport, Pani 899, Streetfighter V4S, Pani V4S just to name a few! The PP is prob the only one that I've been to the edge of the rear tyre and scraping my boots on the road lol! PP is awesome fun and I love it!

 

I think the V4 S is sufficient bike for us normal mortals. Pikes Peak and RS are for people who like to spend more money for gains they probably can’t really use on the road. If you ride on billard table smooth roads then maybe a PP or RS makes sense.

 

Only one way to find out, get a test ride.

From my own point of view, I just sold my V4S and bought a Desert X, which in my opinion is the coolest bike Ducati make. It's also much more agile than the V4S.

But what one person likes, another may not so best test ride first.

 

Came from a Z1000SX to a V4S GT and the V4S turned in quicker and was more stable at slower speeds. IMO the V4S is all you need and you won't notice the 19" wheel unless you're a track god. If all you're worried about is overtaking speed - it will be okay

I lie, you will notice the 19" front wheel on our crap UK roads.............and appreciate it!

 

I think you need to test ride both to really decide for yourself.
There’s no power difference between the V4S and the PP as they use the same engine (and I’m fairly sure it’s the same gearing too). Aesthetics, the 17” front wheel and the suspension are the only differences.

I have a V4S and I’ve ridden a PP whilst I think the aesthetics of the PP are very nice it’s not the bike for me or for the roads we get around here. I’m sure it excels on a race track but on real life roads give me fully automatic suspension of the V4S any day.

 

If you are going for a road bike only, nothing beats the handling of a 17" front wheel on the V4 PP and the adjustable Ohlins electronic suspension.

 

I went from V4s to PP , then back to the V4s . Reasons were a bad bike to simplify things . The PP is a great looking bike and has quality items on it and my dealer is asking me to test the new PP , but I’m not that keen. The V4 s is a fantastic bike which holds it own with most but now with the roads in the condition they are now the PP seems a bit pointless . I can ride the bike to its extent with no real issues and would in reality find this harder on a more sensitive smooth bike that the PP is , its twitchy if the roads are not suited to the sports tyres and the 17 front . The 19 on the V4s deals with all .
In Spain it would be great but tyres would not last more than 1200 miles , not an issue as you can change them but it’s hassle . The CTA 3 on the V4s will just do a trip . So my point is it’s the way you ride , not always the bike .
Also vanity plays a big point against practicality but that’s fine , I went for practically over looks but I also prefer the look of the V4s as it’s more balanced and also in riding .
Sky hook or Ohlins , I prefer the Skyhook for the different roads we ride these days , less sensitive to changes.

 

Love the maths .. 30 bikes in 15 years , and the PP for 3 of those years ? wow you must have given them all a good chance to impress

 

I'll never understand the need to replace a bike every 5 minutes... What a waste.

 

I agree (says him on bike number 25…) but I am starting to keep mine longer, honest !

 

Yep, it looks like I'm finally growing up and calming down now. I've even just bought some trousers at Marks & Spencer this week, so the end is nigh.

 

Most of them were GS's, which as you know can be a bit hit and miss.

 

Ouch... feel your pain . It will be Clarks shoes next .... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

For me the PP just rides too firmly even in the softest settings vs the V4S with Skyhook. I prefer a 17" front and a bit wider rear having modded a few GS's over the years to R1200S wheels. At this point in my life and based on our lousy road conditions, I will stick with the V4 Rally I'm currently on and its stock wheel sizes. I do have on order a set of the new forged wheels from Ducati. Lighter weight and less prone to denting.

Marc

 

Try riding Wales , its a UK version of the Somme ....

 

I’ve had both and, as others have said, you really do need to ride both as the pace and type of riding you do will determine which is best for you… from what you’re suggesting I’d hazard the V4S is possibly the best fit.

I had a Multi 1200S and took it for a service. The loaner was a Multi V4S and within 100 yards of leaving the stealership I knew I would be chopping old in for new later that day. I subsequently had, and loved, my V4S Full for a little over two years which saw me do about 18,000 miles on it… many of those on the pothole laden roads in and around Yorkshire Dales and Moors near where I live. I also did a few trips to Scotland and also fully laden with luggage and my better half as pillion. I did a trip to the Eiffels in Germany which also involved a mix of amazingly smooth roads, bumpy roads, flat out autobahn schleps, including 4 laps around Spa on the way home. I also did a couple of track days at Donnington. All I can say is it was faultless in every aspect with zero problems and I thoroughly enjoyed my time on it.

I then got the itch and chopped the V4S in for my current V4 Pikes Peak which I’ve done much the same sort riding and track days, including Portugal/Picos and a shitty long 1200 mile autoroute ride back via France due to force gales, and delayed return ferry from Santander.

My opinion is probably somewhere between Captain’s and Multirider’s. Neither bike is a compromise - they are both amazing. The V4S is a slightly more comfortable and flexible all rounder, especially for touring on and dealing with shitty roads - I was always in awe of the ride quality delivered the Marzochi Skyhook.

For me though, the one that really floats my boat is the PP. From both a looks and ‘feel’ perspective as, on the right road (or track), it simply looks and feels 15/20% sharper. The Ohlins EC2, once setup correctly, is equally sophisticated - and more so when really pressing on - although combined with the smaller front wheel is undoubtedly slightly less plush on rough rutted roads.

I also can’t think of anything else I would swap it for, have been delighted by both, and am off out for a blast tomorrow!

I’m also interested to see if Ducati launch a true replacement Supersport with the new v2 motor though… although from what I’ve read/watched it sounds like the new Panni V2 might just be that bike. That said I wouldn’t want to be without a Multi.

In summary, they are both a wedge of cash so test ride both

HTH

 

That is , with out doubt a great post and
also a summary of truth .
But for me the V4s works so well and I have pushed it to its limits .