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Discussion in 'Builds & Projects' started by Topolino, Sep 29, 2024.

  1. Discovered the bluetooth DMS module that the dealer ordered (to replace the one I had carried over from my 2018 V4S and which didn't work on the new bike), has in fact been superceded. Contacted Ducati who verified the module is now in it's third incarnation, no doubt to address compatibility issues with software changes over the years. Dealership agreed to order me the latest one and I've to return the one they originally ordered. In itself no big deal, that is unless you have already fitted it. :confused:

    Got a text today saying the module had arrived. Having removed V4 bodywork so often, it's was a matter of 15-20 mins to get the mirrors, inner ducts & nose fairing off, in order to gain access to the module to remove it. Dropped off the module at the dealer and picked up the new one before heading home. A little over 25 mins later, I had it fitted and the bodywork/mirrors buttoned up. The module will have to be activated by the dealer at a later date, which also ties the VIN to the module. Hopefully that will sort the issue out once and for all.
     
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  2. Managed to activate the bluetooth function and tie my VIN to the DMS module with my OBDStar console, so I will get the dealer to check for any module software updates at some later point but for now it's working as advertised. Painter has been in contact to say the seat will be ready next week. All well and good the bike should be complete next weekend, ready for the first ride in Spring.
     
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  3. what is the advantage of the DMS module? I asked my dealer and they hadn't fitted one so couldn't confirm functionality
     
  4. It's not quite as sophisticated as the system on the Multistrada but in essence the DMS module (Ducati Multimedia System), allows you to pair your bluetooth intercom/headset and mobile phone with the bike, so you can accept/reject incoming phone calls and recall and dial up to 7 received numbers and/or play and control music from say for example Spotify, directly from your LH handlebar switch. Pause, Skip, Next Track etc.

    In addition you can pair it to a separate SatNav or run a background app on your phone (such as Google Maps) to hear turn by turn directions (or if the feature is built in - or available as an accessory on some newer bikes), you can hear the instructions through your headset, as well as see guidance on the screen. The new Panigale V4 for example or the Multistrada both offer this feature.

    You can also connect the Ducati Link app, which will record your bike's data as you ride, items such as lean angle, speed, distance travelled, routes taken, next service due notifications and more. You can even set the ride modes from the app. Some might say it's frivolous on a sports bike, but for me it's very handy, as I spend quite a lot of time on standby for work and need to be contactable over certain periods, so being able to receive calls, means I can still go for a ride, on the days when I am. Many of the newer headsets such as the Sena or Cardo offerings, also have an FM radio, which is useful if you want to get traffic updates on a longer journey. It is not everyone's cup of tea but it works for me.
     
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  5. Thanks for the detailed overview, topo
     
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  6. I love this bluetooth system on my Multi. Only using for phone and helmet link.
     
  7. That's pretty much what I use it for but I do like the option to listen to the radio and/or music on longer journeys. The new "Wave" app from Sena is a game changer as it means you can communicate with another rider over a limiitless distance which is great if you want meet up somewhere that is not local to you both, yet still have a conversation and co-ordinate with each other whilst still riding and not having to stop to call one another, to check on your respective whereabouts. Not sure any other system offers that functionality. You even get a map showing where each party is located within the app in real time, much like Live360.
     
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  8. Not heard of that Wave app. Sound interesting. Mate and I are both on Sena, will look it up
     
  9. I wonder how the bluetooth will work for you and the Wave app. In my settup, I can't use the phone app directly, as the phone is not linked to the helpmet, but rather phone linked to the bike, and headset linked to the bike. When I got my bike, at first I had the phone-helmet link up, but could not get bike mixed into it. But after I deleted the pairing, and went to bike instead, it worked, and I could use the bike controls.
     
  10. Motorcycling used to be so simple:upyeah:
     
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  11. There a few anomolies with the DMS setup. Notably that the Ducati Link app will not work or worse crash, if you simultaneously try to stream music or make/receive a call through to your headset via your phone through the DMS module on the bike. It is one or the other. This is an issue that Ducati were made aware of almost 4 years ago but that still has not been resolved. A lot of these restrictions are due to the 2.0 BT Chipset that resides inside the module and is woefully outdated. They've pretty much left the app for dead in terms of development (it is over 10 years since it's launch), having now thrown all their efforts into the Ducati Connect app, which by all accounts, has a much better GUI.

    The SENA Wave app uses VOIP (the same principle that is used when making a WhatsApp call), so as long as you are connected to your headset via your phone, or through the DMS (though you don't need to be for WAVE to work), and providing the other party is currently connected and logged in to the WAVE app, you can both talk to each other irrespective of distance. Be aware that on the road this will be consuming your cellular data, outside of a current WiFi connection to your phone. How you might ask is this any different to just calling each other. The main difference is that you can see the other party's geographical location, displayed in the app and other riders you invite who are logged in, can also be invited into the conversation. Open/Group Mesh on the SENA for example, limits you to about 1.5-2km max, so Wave is a game changer in this respect. In addition the other party does not necessarily need to be using a SENA device. If for any reason you lose internet connectivity (in the case of SENA) it automatically selects OPEN mesh, until such a time as you regain coverage and your WAVE connection is restored. Hope this info is of use.
     
    #271 Topolino, Mar 22, 2025 at 11:40 PM
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  12. I have been asked numerous times over the years with my builds, if I have ever tallied up what I have fitted to the bike, so spanning the last few months I have kept a list of each part. This list does not included purchase costs, as these are apt to fluctuate and a total figure can easily be reached with some time and research, if anyone is curious to know. This is more of a reference for the work carried out. The total spend is what it is and the build makes no sense financially, but that is not why I did it. If anyone wants any information on specific parts listed below, then please send me a PM.

    As mentioned in a previous post, the bike should be complete towards the end of the week, assuming the seat cowl paintwork is completed on time. Naturally pictures and perhaps a video will follow. For now here's the list....

    FASTENERS (Stainless Steel)

    PRO BOLT
    Anti Knock Sensor Bolts x 2
    Ignition Coil Pack Bolts x 4
    AIS Valve Cover Bolts x 4
    Engine Tripod Bolts x 3
    Starter Solenoid Bolts x 2
    Lower & Upper Rear Suspension Bracket Bolts x 6
    Front Sprocket Cover / Clutch Slave Cylinder Bolts x 5
    Chain Slider Bolts & Collars x 6
    RH Footrest Support Bracket Bolts x 3
    RPM Pick Up Sensor Bolt & Washer x 1
    Earth Bolt & Washer x 1
    Lower Yoke Pinch Bolts x 6
    Oil Cooler Pipe Clamp Plate Bolts x 2
    Gear Change Arm Bolt x 1
    LH Footrest / Side Stand Support Bracket Bolts x 3
    Expansion Tank Bolts x 6
    Rear Speed Sensor Bolt x 1
    Rear Caliper Pinch Bolts x 2
    Rear Caliper Mounting Bolts x 2
    Rear Caliper Banjo Bolt x 1
    Front Speed Sensor Bolt x 1
    Front Caliper Bolts x 4
    Front Caliper Bleed Nipples x2
    Rear Brake Reservoir Bolt & Washer x 1
    Rear Brake Master Cylinder Bolts x 2
    GPS Support Bracket Bolts x 2
    Tool Compartment Front Bolts x 2
    Tool Compartment Rear Bolt & Nut x 1
    Clutch Master Cylinder Bleed Nipple x 1
    Front Brake Master Cylinder Bleed Nipple x 1
    Clutch Master Cylinder Banjo Bolt x 1
    Front Brake Master Cylinder Banjo Bolt x 1
    LH Clip On Bolt x 1
    RH Clip On Bolt x 1
    Master Cylinder Perch Bolts x 4
    Seat Pad Under Bracket Bolts & Washers x 4
    Front Brake & Clutch Reservoir To M.Cyl Bolts & Washers x 2
    IMU To Bracket Bolts x 2
    Front Subframe Bolts & Washers x 4
    Headlight To Subframe Mounting Bolts x 2
    Front Nose Cone Mounting Bolts x 2
    Front Axle Pinch Bolts x 4

    ACCU

    Inner Airbox Lower Loom Bolts x 3
    Lower Injector Cap Bolts x 4
    Upper Injector Cap Bolts x 4
    Front Airbox Cover Bolts x 2
    Rear Airbox Cover Bots x 2
    Map Sensor Bolts x 2
    BBS Bracket Bolt x 1
    DES Bracket Bolt x 1
    Battery Box Bolts x 4
    Air Cyclone & Cross Link Radiator Pipe Bolts x 2
    Horn Bracket Nut & Washer x 1
    Oil Cooler Retaining Nuts & Washers x 2
    Subframe Cross Member Nyloc Nuts x 2
    Rear Loom P-Clip Bolt x 1
    IMU Bracket Mounting Nuts x 6
    Instrument Panel Front Subframe Nuts & Washers x
    Generator Cover Bolts x 4
    Lockstops & Nuts

    MIKALOR

    Jubilee Clips - Samco Hoses

    JCS
    Jubilee Clips - Samco Hoses

    FASTENERS (Titanium)

    RACE TI
    Inlet Manifold Bolts x 8
    Throttle Body Bolts x 16
    Fixed Trumpet Bolts x 8
    Actuating Trumpet Linkage Bolts x 4
    VIS Actuating Motor Bolts x 3
    AIS Valve Motor Bolts x 2
    Voltage Regulator Bolts x 2
    Inner Air Duct Bolts x 4
    Outer Air Duct Bolts x 4
    Front Hydraulic Line Frame Bracket Bolt x 1
    Rear Subframe Cover Inner Bolts x 4
    Rear Fuel Tank Bolts x 2
    Side Fuel Tank Bolts x 2
    ABS Bracket Bolts x 2

    RSR MOTO
    Rear Sprocket Nuts x 6
    Front Disc Bolts x 10

    TGP MOTO RACING
    Rear Suspension Linkage Bolts x 6

    ADDICTION MOTOSPORT
    Rear Axle Nuts
    Rear Axle Nut Lock Rings

    PODIUM RACING
    Front Axle Nut x 1

    PRO BOLT
    Side Stand Switch Bolts x 2
    Screen Bolts x 6

    MOTO CORSE
    DQS Mounting Bolt x 1
    Side Stand Bolt

    OTHER
    Custom Magnetic Drain Plug

    FASTENERS (Zinc Plated)

    GENERIC
    Hose Clamps - Purge Lines, Brake & Clutch Lines.

    BILLET ALLOY PARTS

    MOTO CORSE
    Engine Tripod Bracket
    Rear Caliper Mounting Bracket
    Upper Rear Suspension Bracket
    Lower Rear Suspension Bracket
    RH Footrest Support Bracket
    LH Footrest / Side Stand Support Bracket
    Rear Suspension Linkage Rods
    Rear Suspension Rocker Link
    Rear Main Frame Plugs
    Gear Change Arm
    Swing Arm Pivot Caps
    Subframe Plug Caps
    Top Yoke
    Side Stand
    Front Main Frame Plugs

    CNC RACING
    Clutch Slave Cylinder
    Expansion Tank Cap
    Steering Stem Nut
    Rear Wheel Cone

    DESMO WORLD
    Front Brake & Clutch Reservoir To Bracket Bolts
    Steering Damper Mounting Bolts
    Ignition Switch Cover Bolts

    BONAMICI

    Generator Cover

    RIZOMA

    Oil Filler Cap
    Fuel Filler Cap (Supplied with the bike)
    Stealth Mirrors

    STM

    Timing Inspection Cover

    GILLES TOOLING

    MUE2 Rearsets

    DUCABIKE

    Rear Brake Master Cylinder Cover

    MOTOGADGET

    Bar End Indicators

    SUSPENSION TECHNOLOGY

    Rear Axle Mass Damper

    MISCELLANEOUS PARTS

    DUCATI
    ABS Support Bracket (97120821A)
    ABS Support Bracket Heat Guard (97410211B)
    Purge Line Blanking Plug (97641221A)
    Fuel Pipe (59013901A) x 2
    Y Pipe (61610021A) x 1
    Purge Valve Blanking Plug (96540031A) x 1
    P Clamps (74140551A) x 3
    LH Footrest Bracket Spacing Washers (85212031A) x 2
    Hellerman Ties (75840951A) x 2
    Rear Brake Linkage Clevis Pin (18410152AA) x 1
    Rear Brake Return Spring (915511A) x 1
    Rear Brake Actuating Rod (11711831AA) x 1
    Rear Brake Actuating Rod Nuts (74750031A) x 2
    Rear Brake Light Switch Bolt (77912371B) x 1
    Ducati Corse Badge Decal (43819711A) x 2
    Rubber Drain Hose (87611191A) x 1
    Airbox Clip Retainer (8501A701A) x 1
    Rubber Grommets (76440561A) x 5
    Airbox Clip (8501A671AA) x 1
    Exhaust Servo Valve Blanking Plug (96510911A) x 1
    ABS Bracket Rubber Pad (78510181A) x 1
    Bluetooth DMS Module (96681146AA) x 1
    Lower Fairing Extension Kit (97181071AA) x 1
    Dynamic LED Indicators - Pair (96680961BA) x 1
    Sprint Air Filter (96010111A)

    SITTA

    Z41 520 Alloy Rear Sprocket
    Ergal Rear Sprocket Flange
    QC Sprocket Carrier

    STAHLBUS

    Rear Caliper Bleed Screw & Cap
    Front Caliper Single Banjo Bolt Bleeder & Cap
    Front Caliper Double Banjo Bolt Bleeder & Cap
    Clutch Slave Cylinder Bleeder Screw & Cap

    TERMIGNONI
    D200 TTC Full Titanium Exhaust System

    BREMBO

    Stylema Custom Painted Front Calipers
    Goldline 330mm Supersport Brake Discs

    SAMCO
    Full Silicone Hose Kit

    DUCATI SPACERS

    Heat Shield Kit
    Throttle Spacers Kit

    EVOTECH
    Radiator & Oil Cooler Guards (EP Edition)
    Number Plate Tail Tidy

    DID
    520 ERV Gold Final Drive Chain

    OTHER MANUFACTURERS

    Lambda Probe Reducers x 4
    ABS Line Coloured Spiral Binding
    Tygon Tubing
    Black Spiral Binding
    AMP Tyco Rubber Boot (2-Way)
    Pro-Grip 717 Grips
    Rear Undertray Sealing Grommet
    Indicator Pigtail Leads x 2
    VIZI-Tec Rear Light Modulator
    PUIG Double Bubble Screen
    Tony James PPF Full Kit
    Speedo Angels Instrument Panel Protector

    TOOLS
    DID KM500R Chain Breaking/Flaring Tool
    BSD Switch Removal Tool
    PREMIER Short Throw Allen Key Set

    CERAKOTED PARTS
    Radiator Link Pipe
    Radiator
    Oil Cooler
    Clip Ons & Pins
    Handlebars
    Subframe Cross Link
    Oil Pipe Retention Plates
    Seat Bracket

    CARBON FIBRE

    ILMBERGER

    Front Sprocket Cover
    LH Cylinder Head Cover
    RH Cylinder Head Cover
    Rear Undertail Cover
    Instrument Cover

    DUCATI PERFORMANCE

    Shark Fin Guard
    Swing Arm Cover
    Frame Covers
    Brake Cooling Ducts (Supplied with the bike)
    Clutch Cover (Supplied with the bike)

    LIEB SPEED

    Rear Subframe Covers
    Ignition Switch Cover
    Front Subframe Covers
    Rear Seat Bump Stop Pad

    FULLSIX
    Rear Hugger

    TERMIGNONI

    Rear Undertray
    Main Heat Shield
    Secondary Heat Sheild
    Tertiary Heat Shield

    VULTUREBIKE
    Rear Seat Cowl

    CUSTOM WORK

    AIRFX
    Clear coating of carbon wheels, winglets and heat shields. Paintwork for rear seat cowl

    WEBB ENGINEERING

    Stainless steel rear support bracket for Termignoni exhaust
     
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