anyone familiar with the law on those? I got picked up by policeman with the speed gun around mid-march. Didn't receive the letter till 4 weeks on the dot later. 94mph recorded speed. Someone told me that i can get ticket cancelled as they have to notify me within 14 days of offence, but looks like they notified leasing co (its a company car) within 14 days and i didn't get the letter till day 28. is it worth disputing or would i be better off just taking the points? also having googled about it, the punishment is anything between 3ponts/£100 to ban and week's wages as a fine? where do i stand? haven't had any points in 10 years and only one speed awareness course 2.5 years ago, so record is fairly clean. any advice appreciated
14 days to send letter to Registered Keeper. Registered Keeper has then got 28 days to provide nominated driver. 94mph in a ???? Speed limit. Even on a motorway your speed puts you on a sticky wicket.
According to this, https://www.jmw.co.uk/blog/motoring-law/speeding-ticket-14-day-rule, if the NIP was sent to a leasing company, they are required to respond to the NIP with the details of the person to whom the car is leased. You get a new NIP that doesn’t have the 14 day time limit. What chris said. Andy
AFAIK as long as the leasing company were notified as the legal owners within 14 dayswho passed your details to the Police then everything is correct and in order. Looks like you’ll be having some points and a fine.
Fine will vary from 300 to 1500quid (plus victim surcharge and court costs/police costs) - 94 in a 50 is very different to 94 in a 60 say - but yeah your in ban territory i'm afraid if its either. In my experience, hands up rather than trying to argue with them and submit the early guilty plea goes long way toward keeping licence (And reduces fine by up to 30% I think it was). Worth getting a solicitor if it goes to court (Dont get one of those online ones that quote 1500 to 2k, just a local solicitor does the job) - Best case will be 6 points plus fine, or short ban worse case
Ah you posted while I wrote my comment - 94 in a 70 means less chance of a ban, not sure on fine levels for that one. Think there is a website that will tell you: Yeah found it: https://www.speedingcalculator.co.uk/speeding-calculator.php fine is in band B so 100 to 1000
Once upon a time, my understanding was the rule of thumb (ACPO guidance) was 10% + 10mph in a 70mph zone. That gave you up to 86mph before getting the book thrown at you. Some forces (especially on motorways, M4 & M25) now use a limit of 10% or anything over 76mph before you get nicked. I think the general (mis)belief of the 10% is the original requirement for speedometers to be type approved and the tolerance was -0/+10% at 30mph (you are always going slower than your speedo reads). Andy
thanks all. i am just so annoyed with myself as i don't drive like a prick usually but got held up at school entrance where people where blocking up the road to drop their kids who are too lazy to cross the road by foot. lost 10 mins and was trying to get it back as was running late for meeting in London.
Don’t instruct a solicitor. Instruct a barrister who accepts direct access instructions. The work will be done a lot cheaper and a lot better. If you instruct a sol, they’ll just take the £2k, keep £1,750 of that, do fuck all work, and then the day before the hearing they’ll phone or email around barristers’ chambers trying to find a pupil or baby barrister willing to appear in court for £250 or less. Quite a few provincial sols do their own advocacy but the less said about that idea the better, plus they’re usually far too chummy with the local prosecutors, police and magistrates to risk rocking the boat if they need to kick up a fuss about something.
so you think i have got a chance getting away with it? i have learned my lesson , so will only be fair
Ah OK. If they do offer a fixed penalty, in your shoes I'd take it. You won't get a better deal than 3 points and £100 for that.
Impossible to say without knowing all the circumstances eg: road/weather/traffic conditions, reasons for the excess speed, previous driving record and current reliance on use of a car. A lot also depends on the local police and Mags’ attitude towards speeding in their area. If you get a Bench who hAvE bEeN oN a cOUrSe then best buy yourself a bus pass, but lawyering up will give you the best chance of keeping your licence. 94 in a 70 is in the middle of the middle category in terms of seriousness in the Sentencing Guideline and could result in a short (7 - 28 day) disqualification: https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/
Don't believe the "limit plus 10 percent" pish. Speeding is speeding, as defined in the legislation, any leeway at the time of the offence is down to the cop with the book.
It may of held once, but these days, speeding is a nice, profitable business. You don't even need Police - just a camera, or camera in a van. It probably won't be a speed "better" I mean "awareness" course as you had one less than three years ago, so fine and points. All you can do it take it up the ass and smile.
I thought you had to be doing over 30mph over the speed limit, to be in ban territory? I’ve heard of people getting caught at 104mph and ‘just’ getting 3 points and a £500 fine. Especially if the OP has a clean record, I’d be amazed if they banned him.
about 10 years ago i had 6 points, 3 for speeding 3 for mobile use, so for 2 or 3 years i let the insurance rollover so i didn't have to tell anyone about the 6 points (so in my mind i wasn't lying) some one said to me my insurance would be void in the event of a claim so next time i did car and van insurance and put in the points and offence codes on go compare etc i swear this is true, but both came back about £100 cheaper WITH the 6 points, i did it again without the points. i even spoke to one of the firms (admiral i think) and they confirmed it was cheaper, the guy on the phone couldn't believe it. i dont know why
