If you've a couple of grand to throw at 'the system' & monies to back it up. Fight fight fight the power!
thanks all. will let you know how i get on. someone told i can blame it on electric car malfunctioning ? anyway, i will fill the form and see what they offer. just cant afford loosing license tbh.
If you fancy risking 9 months immediate custody for attempting to pervert the course of justice, go for it!
I got done for quite a bit faster than that and on a slower speed limit road and got 6 points and hefty fine - I could of argued about inconsistencies in statement vs paperwork and all sorts but whats the point. I got caught, regardless of issues I did it, and by sounds of it in this case so did you Solicitor basically told me straight, my early guilty plea, holding hands up and taking on chin (along with first offence/previously clean licence) was what saved me from a ban. You start arguing and wasting courts time, it will cost you in the end
In law got caught doing over 100, he pleaded he needed the car for work and had to pay 1k, no points from what i remember. That was about 2 years ago, I guess all cases are different but gives you an idea
Yep, had a mate pulled over without the correct license for his bike and the copper just waved him on. Does happen from time to time
This link is to Sentencing Council guidance on speeding convictions: https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/outlines/speeding/ . Fwiw, this is an extract from the ACPO guidance on prosecuting speeding offences. Hope it helps. Tom. View attachment 336377
The generally accepted limit for being prosecuted is now : posted limit +10% +2mph That means 79mph on a motorway will get you done, as will 35mph in a 30 limit.
That must be an old document, £60 fine? It's now a £100 pound fine If offered a speed awareness course, it may be cheaper But, these are only guidelines, the police forces do not need to abide by them, some forces, North Wales for example, used to have a zero tolerance on speed
Further to the additional posts on this subject, which appear to be in broad agreement, I add the following clarification. It is quite correct to point out that the ACPO/NPCC original guidance document is from 2015, restated in 2016, but a freedom of information response from NPCC dated 16/01/2023, contains the statement: "Please note that this is the current version of this document, dated 2015." The link to the FOI request is: https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-committee/068-2022-npcc-response-letter.pdf . The version of the table provided in a link to the original ACPO document from the FOI request, contains a little more information: Further, the general levels set for considering speeding enforcement action provided by NPCC is: "Guidance issued by the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) suggests when enforcement action will be taken against speeding motorists – this is usually when the relevant speed limit is exceeded by 10% plus 2 mph. However, this is for guidance purposes only, a police officer has the discretion to act outside it." The threshold level of 10% + 2mph has been mentioned in previous posts in this thread, and is consistent with the speed value given in column 3 (blue background) in the above table. The link below given in the original link to the Sentencing Council Guidelines, contains detailed guidance on sentences to be imposed according to the offence and its circumstances: https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/ . I hope this clarification is of interest. Tom. PS. I attempted to reproduce the table from the sentencing guidelines document, but the layout was not preserved, and it became misleading so was deleted. It can be viewed in its correct format in the link provided. Edit: This link to an earlier Forum thread may be of interest: https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/speed-awareness-tax.88096/ .
I had exactly the same thoughts about mine. The police failed to identify me properly, then lied about the way I identified myself (photo licence when I didn't have one). I could have gone to appeal and had it kicked out, however I was speeding and decided to be at peace with it. Mine was an average of 108mph (dual carriageway, 70mph) and resulted in 6 points and around a £1,250 fine.
