1199 panigale won't start (after wash)

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by RedRobert, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. So I picked up my 6 month old Panigale today and a long run home. Bike was filthy so gave it a good wash down. Started no prob afterwards. About 30 mins later no joy. Power on, hit starter button and some click and funny noise but no start. Engine management light comes on and dash says "!Engine"

    Not the start I was hoping for with the price of this bike and I've been looking for one for 10 months.

    Any ideas or help? Could it be moisture around fuse box. Can't believe a bike of this price would have a moisture problem????

    Any help appreciated
    Thanks
    Ronan
     
  2. Urk! I'm not an expert, so no suggestions I'm afraid, but I hope you got it sorted.
     
  3. My 1098 let me down recently at Cadwell Park. We drove down the night before and set up ready for the morning. It pissed it down most of the night and low and behold come morning it decided not to start. luckily I had taken my R1 as well so put the Duke back on the trailer. Remained dry for the whole 2 hour journey home, so thinking the wind blast would have dried it all out, decided to try it again... no joy. My patience was now very thin so tucked the bike away, deciding to investigate the following weekend. Following weekend put the key in and she started straight away. Sprayed everything with ignition sealer and it,s been fine since.
    Give it a week and see what happens.. you may get lucky.:upyeah:
     
  4. i am astounded at how many people throw water at a exposed complex bit of kit like a bike…………you could try to get it into somewhere warm like a conservatory or something, to help dry it out...
     
  5. Ye need to wash them! Plus in Ireland your lucky to avoid water. Never had any such issues with my 1098 over 6 years.

    She is all dried out today but still no joy. She is going back to ducati dealer on Monday.

    Incidentally, the dealer says they power wash all their bikes, even the desmos, and never any issues. They think it's not water related. I will post next week when they look at it.

    Thanks
     
  6. welcome to the shit world of a panigale , ducati should recall the lot and get these shity problems fixed not charge 20k for a pile of crap best of luck anyway,
     
  7. there are a bank / block of connectors at the back of the tank, take your seat off you will see them. pull apart and check for corrosion, water.. clean them with electrical gel.
     
  8. a real ducati enthusiast
     
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  9. nahh ive got one that's my and plenty of other opinions unlike many who put up with the crap just because its a ducati and you think its part of the course ,, I don't , and they charge you 20k for the pleasure of it , and you watch the bottom fall out of the panni market soon , as no dealers want them
     
  10. jimmy 43, I don't often criticise other forum members, largely because this is place where we can honestly express our views, good and bad, about Ducati motorcycles. However, RedRobert has started a thread about a problem he has with his bike. Therefore, rather than say "welcome to the shit world of a panigale" why don't you post something useful for a change ? If you can't do that, why don't you just quietly accept the fact the Panigale wasn't for you and move on ?

    Looking at other replies to your posts, I'm sure there are a few more forum members that wish you'd quit this negativity. In any case, it can't be good for your health !

    RedRobert, just try and let the bike dry out try again. If you ride throughout the winter, have you considered using ACF50 ?http://www.acf-50.co.uk

    This stuff is outstanding, spay it on electrical contacts, chrome, aluminium, titanium, steel or any other material and it'll form a waterproof film. It attracts dirt like crazy but when winter is over, wash it off and your bike will still look like new.

    I hope you resolve your problem, it's sounds like too much of a coincidence for it not to be water related.

    (I have a Panigale Tricolore and love it, it's different to my 1198S Corse and Bayliss 1098R but I really gel with it).
     
    #10 flyer47, Dec 7, 2013
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  11. erm NO lol if other people had balls like me and got onto ducati about ALL the panni problems maybe they would do something about it but if people say well its ok its a ducati ,they will keep taking the piss out of there customers and sell them with the problems they have and lets face it 20k for a bike whats shite is quite a lot of cash, ,,,thought I had moved on this week until the bmw dealer cocked on the deal as the ducati dealer he was trading onto cocked saying he didn't want a panni in ,,, and that's a main dealer so even they want nothing to do with it ,, so back to the drawing board so their that's MY opinion ,,,:tongue:
     
  12. Its a motorbike, a vehicle designed to be used in all weather conditions! Washing it really shouldn't cause any problems. Yes keep the power washer away from the electrics butif a soapy sponge causes problems then clearly something is very wrong!
     
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  13. well clearly the case here then……….
     
  14. Would disconnecting and then re-connecting the battery be worth a try? Maybe a random glitch got stored in the memory that this may clear?
    A mk5 golf I had blew a sidelight bulb so warning light came on. Replaced bulb. Still no joy. Bulb failed to work. No power to it. Traced fuses, wiring etc. no joy. Disconnected battery. Reconnected and fault was cleared and it worked. Seems like a memory log in the ecu once something happens it stops the 12v power supply.
    Could this be true for a Panni too? Cost nothing to try.
     
  15. Waterproofing is something manufacturers put a lot of work into. If you can't leave a bike out in a downpour or throw a bucket of water over it something is wrong. Jet washing is a bad idea, but anything else should be fine
     
  16. Quite possible, can bus electrics are turned on and off by the ecu, so it's possible the ecu has become confused and turned the engine electrics off.

    A mate of mine had a Cadillac sts (woefull piece of shite) which decided one evening not to give the shut down signal to the headlights when he turned them off. Turning then back on then off sorted it.
     
  17. Thanks for all the suggestions here guys. I will try some of these today and post here how things go.

    Many thanks
    Ronan
     
  18. had he washed it with copious amounts of water?
     
  19. Whenever i strip clean my bikes, i then empty a small tin of wd40 on it. Spraying all the leccy bits and the plugs as well as the whole engine etc. It helps to make it easier to clean the next time round too. Might stop a wee bit of corrosion as well. Plus I love that smell when i fire her up afterwards. Gets a bit smokey mind. :)
     
  20. It was American, the electricity probably stopped for a hamburger en route to the headlights...
     
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