European contenders Bmw GS...big , you wont take it out for a daily casual ride Bmw s100xr il4 , a sports bike with no character KTM ugly, boring offroad bias Ducati multistrada - awesome Wtf are you waiting for, buy with your heart not your head
Have you bought it Come on we are all waiting for pics Oh the suspense is killing :Arghh::Nailbiting::Rage:
Two Words " Honda Crosstourer" IMHO if you looking for ultra reliability, comfy, do it all, bike then try a demo on one of those. 130bhp V4 with manual or dual clutch paddle shift semi auto 6speed gearbox. ;-)
Reliable- yes Boring as sin- yes Heavy- yes (really heavy, I struggle to flip it up on the centre stand) Suspension- yes its proper shite over sprung (needs £1k spending on it, unless your over 20 stone) Dct is great system, the Honda dealership bods were lapping donnington faster on a dct then the manual bike.
Boaring ? I don't get it when people say that? It's got a fast engine and your sat on two wheels holding on like with every other bike. Yes it's a big bike but I personally have no issue whatsoever popping it on its centre stand. Suspension work fine for me, it goes up n down and smooths out the bumps. Still we can't all like the same bikes, one man's meat is another mans poison etc etc. Have to agree on dct gearbox though, simply brilliant bit of tech ;-)
Ohh did you come up with that little ditty all by yourself? Multistrada, more like mulitbreakdown. Enjoy ;-)
7k on a MTS 12 plate, no issues just a few recalls. 19k on a MTS 11 plate, no issues other than exhaust valve bollocks, just usual serving and recalls, now out of warranty. I may change in a few years or nearer the 30k mark. For me this bike does everything and always puts a smile on my face. Its got a shite back brake, the panniers scratch very easily and aren't the best, fiddling with the heated grips is clumsy, and some corrosion protection on some parts aren't the greatest, but after 19k the bike still scrubs up pretty well and still looks no worse than a four year old BMW. Pick your poison mate, its really your choice, for me it will always be the MTS.
Did 15k in just over 2years on my 2013. Problem free. Was not happy about quality of fasteners though, they would round off as soon as you went near them with tools. Rust on the chain and exhaust within months not good either and I do clean and lube the chain on a bike. Would say all bikes these days are built to a price, with out sourced parts. Got S1000r now as wanted a sport bike again. Fasteners all stainless. Quality standard exhaust as well. Just nearing 3k without any issue.* Got to be an element of luck with all bikes*. Talking to a guy at Cooper BMW last week collecting his 4th BMW GS. Never had any reliability or warranty issues over a combined 70k miles.
Well, I'm probably entirely certifiable: I've owned only Ducatis since 1983 and currently have three of the blighters. The most reliable of the current stable is my ST4s, at 50k miles, it's a keeper. The least reliable is my '10 Multi, however, having deleted (with prejudice) the exhaust valve, had a new rad recently (under goodwill) and sorted various other minor-but-irritating problems, I'm left with a machine that looks like it has mange (dreadful finish on swing arm & engine cases) but which is - this week at least - running absolutely brilliantly and whose Ohlins suspension has rather more feel than the current Skyhook brigade. I've been riding various alternatives but, to date, nothing is sufficient of an improvement (including BMW, KTM etc) for me to stump up the cost of a new machine. I think you either trade Ducatis before warranty is out or you keep them forever…
The new KTM 1290 Adventures are a step ahead of the previous 1290 super adventure and several steps ahead of the 1190. The 1290S is definitely a viable rival for the Multi. Which is why it didn't appeal to me when I rode it.. Too much technology for me, too civilised, too clever. I wish it was available as a base model with just ABS and the semi active suspension then I'd buy one. The 1090 is what I want, but with the 1290 engine and none of the tech. No off-road pretensions with the S though, its pure tarmac same as the Multi and a direct competitor. Anyone who likes the Multi should try it. While we're discussing alternatives I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Triumph Explorer. The latest edition is an excellent bike. The handling and chassis with its semi-active WP suspension is a match for the Multi and the 1290S and the engine is silky smooth. Its not as punchy as the V twins but its quicker than a GS, supremely comfortable and rock solid stable at high speeds. The weight is carried higher than any of the twins but it vanishes when the wheels turn and for me the ergonomics and seat are the most comfortable of any bike I've ridden in this class. It even beats the GS. The brakes are superb and so is the electric screen. Why all these bike don't have them is beyond me. Its still quite techie but doesn't feel overly clever or complicated or like and electro-nightmare waiting to happen and because the engine is by nature less gnarly than the twins it doesn't feel like its been sanitised. (The 1290S does but that may be because I've got a 1290 Superduke and I'm making unfair comparisons. I'll have to ride it again). The Triump is less of a sporty all-rounder than the Multi or the KTMs but as an upright adventure-style tourer for people who want to cover serious miles it'll be hard to beat. The Givi-based Triumph badged aluminium luggage is damn good as well. Better than what KTM or Ducati have to offer and cheaper than BMW's. For touring I'd have an Explorer over a GS for delivery in every department and over the Multi or the 1290 KTM for value for money. I'm looking to replace my much-loved SMT with a more capable tourer. It won't be the Multi or the 1290S for the above reasons. It'll probably be a used 1190 because of budgetary constraints but if I could afford it I'd buy a new or '16 plate XRx Explorer.
After the problems I had with my faultistrada, the wife wouldn't let me ever buy another Ducati. Rightly so! Like you, I do lots of mileage and always found the people saying their multis are fine, are either chopping and changing when the warranty runs out or they just don't do the miles. Back on a 2013 KTM 990 SMT and love it. Wouldn't dream of getting rid of it now and it's the bike that will probably turn me into a 2 bike owner as, when I fancy something new, I won't be able to part. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
On my second 1200s, I'd agree with this. Had 848s, old multi, monsters, ST range, 9*6 range...all have been mostly reliable. I have had a fireblade that chewed its alternator and blew fuses and power issues, a K5 that wouldn't start in the wet, a triumph 675 they blew the motor (my first ever in 30 years plus on bikes) after 10 minutes riding it, a BMW GS that needed two immobiliser rings. All brands have issues But the Multi. Its worth it
On my third multi suggests one every couple of years though... so reliable I don't dare keep it long [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
