848 Old Chestnut, Suspension On 848evo Corse Se

Discussion in '848 / 1098 / 1198' started by Tonyj, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. Sorry if theres a ton of threads on this. But being new to the world of ducati I thought I'd ask ?
    The rear shock on my bike feels like it's welded together, I've ridden it about 4xtimes so just getting used to it really, but today the thing was a total p.i.a literally . I was airborn a few times and rattling me to death. I think I'm going to need to get this setup .
    I weigh in at 20st , so not a lot off two up , but its miles to hard.
    Would also like ideas on real world tyre pressures for the road not track.
    Love the roar through the air box and this is with standard exhaust. It's only done 1200 mile so the book says to run it in a bit more , can't seem to get it over 8k :0) and I've run out of road . Luckily the brakes are enough to put my spuds in the tank
    Can anyone recommend a suspension man in and or around Essex.
     
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  2. feel you pain, literally at times as my first 848 I weighed 22st...front as soggy as a whores ass, the rear should be fine tho!

    Set your sag, get a mate and follow this Motorcycle Suspension Setup it shows how to

    Then set the comp and rebound at factory settings and start from there

    What tyres are you running?
     
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  3. BTW they love to be thrashed...!
     
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  4. Original issue I think on the tyres.there is no movement on the rear at all , front has some movement so no real balance .
    As its for the odd day out I wouldn't mind it all a bit softer for the road. Don't worry I'll do my best on the thrashing front :0)
     
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  5. I have the same bike & absolutely love it. It loves to live around 9k revs, incredibly responsive but it does eat tyres. Its broken in now so what are you waiting for ;) Brakes are astounding, you can go really deep.

    I'm no expert and 'only' ~12.5 stone but if you have the Corse SE with the Ohlins rear I'm surprised you find it hard TBH, its positively plush compared to the regular evo. The old shock was filled with concrete! As the ohlins is a bit softer could you be bottoming it out I wonder? I had mine setup at a local race shop and difference was night and day. Best 40 quid I've spent.

    The page bradders linked to is well worth a look if you don't mind trying it yourself. Front is easy to adjust but the rear is fiddly. There's a lot of range on the adjustment, one or two clicks makes a lot of difference. You'll need a c spanner for the preload and a long ball end allen for the rebound (not sure of size) through a hole in the swing arm, comp is easy. TBH though the experience is what you're paying for with a set up, its well worth it and they will advise if you need a different spring.
     
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  6. I'm 14stone and I really struggled with the 848 rear, both the standard shock and the Ohlins off the Evo corse. Others do find it okay but I struggled.

    The simple answer is to re-spring for your weight, u may need the same spring but less pre-load (which u run out of adjustment because the adjusters touch the body) or a lighter spring with more preload on it, but a softer spring rate.

    Either way it can be sorted! Word of warning though, taking the rear shock out yourself is a total pig!!! U struggle to drop the swingarm down far enough because of the lambda sensor in the exhaust header at the bottom so u need to take the lambda out which if it's rusted in needs a careful hand
     
  7. If you can use a C spanner the first thing Id suggest is winding the rear pre load off.
    These bike were notoriously hard out the box.
     
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  8. Thing is for a 20stone rider, youre prob going to want some preload arent you? Do shocks pack down like forks can?? if so it could be too much rebound damping.
     
  9. I'd be amazed if the spring is too heavy. My guess would be wound right in. Get all the preload off, factory settings comp aand reb and see how that is

    If you were local to me (Gloucester) happy to pop round and help you set the sag
     
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  10. I missed the 20st bit. Soz.
     
  11. Yeah I think u need a softer spring but with much more preload, ie get the bike sitting at the correct height for your weight and then the spring rate shouldn't be too hard.
     
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  12. cheers lads
    i've called 1xfirm for an appraisal , the factors are that it needs to be in the game to work and the preload is way too much and i'll have to then set it for my fat belly :0) . I have a gist of static sag , rider sag etc , then i'll go from there.
    as for the run in bit, im not sure how precarious these are . if it was a jap bike I probably wouldn't be concerned but its new to me and I was reading the manual on break in period ?
    so this is how it handled, front compressing on brakes , rear skipping and red lights from traction coming on when starting to power out the corner etc wheel just bouncing probably enough for it to register. that's why I will get it sorted for my weight so its in the area/range to work
     
  13. If its skipping you are topping out so have mo sag, unless yiu are riding like Jonny Rae ;)
     
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  14. More John Mc,cririk and that's why I'm saying it's too stiff at the rear and dipping on front . I checked last nite that the settings are std from the book on the rear at least.
    I asked at hysides and he suggested a firm called mct in Suffolk . I am assuming that they know the bikes and ways
     
  15. How farbout is the preload wound? Do you have a c spanner?
     
  16. Have just pushed it in the garage , so not measured anything yet .
    From memory there's about 30mm of thread showing at the top of the shock . I probably have got a c spanner but the fact is it would probably be best suited to get it checked for my weight as well.
     
  17. Like I say wind it right off and try that. Then go soend some money
     
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  18. Quick update . Got out on the bike today after winding the preload off to almost 0 and it seems a lot better , thanks for the input though . It is showing about 40mm rider sag and the settings are standard at present . Then again might all be in my head :0)
     
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