I'm saying exactly that. Cheating is rife in cycling and it needs to be stopped; the fact they are hunting Armstrong down in this way suggests they are prepared to makes some brave moves in order to facilitate change. And good luck to them. Cheats should never prosper, and if this whole to=do is scaring a few people, then good.
I'm reading Tyler Hamiltons book at the moment, I'm assuming that its basically his evidence to USADA with a bit of fluff around it for the public. Reading this then it's obvious LA is guilty as hell but Hamilton wouldn't sell many books if the LA whitch hunt wasn't ongoing at the time..... interesting that the 'witnesses' have received just a 6 month ban from cycling isn't it?
Who's gonna be next Wiggins, Cavendish, Frome or anyone who is successful. I think there is too much of this retrospective testing the man was "clean" given the tests available at the time. If the tests have improved lets apply them moving fwd to keep all sports clean. Too often these type of investigations give the losers and publicity seekers a chance to get in the news. The races have been run, Armstrong isn't racing anymore move fwd and try and protect the future of all athletes.
Apparently he wasn't clean according to the tests of the time, allegedly he failed a test is Switzerland and bribed the UCI to overlook it !! Wiggins, Cavendish and Frome are hopefully clean, but they and anybody else should know that if they are not then it will come out and their reputations will be in shreds. So we protect the future of all athletes by holding the althletes from the past to account.
Maybe not so much protect them, but provide them with a level playing field. What I want to know is who is goading them into taking the performance-enhancing drugs? Is it the team managers or physios, or maybe the sponsors? And why aren't they being witch-hunted?
I'm going get slated for saying this but - Cav? Clean? A world champion that can't climb?? Tell me I'm wrong.
Cav is a sprinter not a climber so he can win stages or one day races off the front of the peloton but not the grand tours.
I don't know but Tyler Hamiltons book should drop through my letterbox in the next couple of days and I might find out. Commentators seem to be falling into two camps ant the moment, 'I knew nothing and am shocked and surprised' and 'yeah, we all new but there was a conspiracy of silence'.
I'm not much into cycling but I've known about the virtual acceptance of doping for years. If any commentator says he didn't know about it he's a liar.
Jeez buddy, motorsickles ain't the end of the world. There's 2 million threads containing motorbike-related stuff here, and only two interesting threads...
Am I correct in assuming treatment for his testicular cancer included drugs! and amongst those Testosterone. What was he supposed to do ......Die? My 2 penny worth
if everyones cheating, then surely thats a level playing field?? look at bodybuilding..heres a ridiculous 'sport'...Ive been into weight training since i was a kid and have trained with my fair share of meat heads and roiders...even had a dabbled myself for a few months when i was in my early twenties (until my knackers disappeared and i got lots of spots)... This is a sport that is so obviously bent, (you can even see how bent through their speedos), that they even have a Mr. 'Natural' Universe...and most of those guys are on gear. Bloke i trained with at the gym, 'Shakey' he competes in the Seniors...he's a miserable barsteward but pre comp his physique is amazing..he gets right down to 5-8% body fat, 28" waist..and he's 52!! Looks incredible, but every comp ive known him compete in he comes 4th..every time. He was 4th in the world in Vegas and when i last saw him before my spine injury, he'd come 4th in the European seniors in Iceland...i know him and know he's not on gear, but when you see the other lads, theyre all that much bigger than Shakey...10% everywhere..and i know this guy lives and breathes training..he weighs his food, measures his turds..the full bit. Elite sport is riddled with steroids, its jut now the cloaking drugs and drug cycling techniques have improved immensely. We've probably already surpassed what is evolutionarily and genetically possible in most elite sports.
You don't want to condone cheating and drug-taking in any sport. The whole point of sport is that it's a game. The whole point of a game is to measure performance within set parameters which are called "the rules". A game or sport has no intrinsic significance. Running after a ball, trying to hit someone, jumping over a bar, or going round and round an asphalt track - they are all totally pointless activities, but they pass the time. The moment you allow cheating, you've just redefined the sport, or made it even more pointless for all those who aren't cheating. Doped cycling may be a level playing field, but it ain't cycling: it's doped cycling - a different sport. Body-building isn't a sport anyway - just a futile narcissistic exercise. Fine if you want to waste your life doing it, but competitions? What a load of toss (much like Miss World, come to that). I can't build up any sympathy for anyone in body-building being beaten by cheats, as cheating is a sine qua non of the game which everyone is aware of before they even get involved. I can't see the skill in body-building, unless it's pharmaceutical knowledge. I'm not saying the participants don't train hard - I bet they do - just that its a risible way to spend your existence.
