1200 Pikes Peak Bluetooth Woes

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by The Bar Man, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. I took delivery of my new bike a couple of weeks ago and was looking forward to setting up the Bluetooth connectivity.

    I made the assumption that the bike's Bluetooth system would act as a central hub that would handle all the comms with the exception of the rider to passenger intercom. I kind of got everything connected but I couldn't control the music player from the bike (the system for doing that is pretty counter-intuitive but that's a different matter) and the spoken instructions from the sat-nav were heavily distorted.

    Having tried a few other combinations I've not made much progress. What works one day stops functioning the next and it's all getting a bit frustrating.

    The equipment I have is the Sena 20s Dual Intercom, Zumo 590 sat-nav and Galaxy S6 phone. If I don't use the bike system at all then everything connects and works just fine but it would be great to use the bike switch-gear to control things.

    I'm hoping that someone has managed to get a similar configuration of hardware working correctly.
     
  2. I gave up with the bike altogether and use the Sat-nav (590) or my headset to control the music off my phone when I'm not using the Sat-nav
     
  3. Somehow I got a totally different view on the BT connection on the DVT. Apart from not being able to control the volume, everything else works pretty flawless with the iPhone and Sena 10S. I wouldn't want to miss being able to skip tracks, pause, continue, or take incoming calls all from the DVT dashboard.
    Last weekend I tried the passenger com system... I first paired the intercoms to each other and then paired the passenger intercom to the DVT as "passenger".
    Now we're both able to listen to music and as soon as I skip a track via the handlebar, we both get the next track instantaneously.
    To be able to talk to each other, I only have to press the Sena headset button once.

    Don't give up trying to get everything to work with the DVT BT system... Once you get it to work, it's pretty cool.. Just m2c
     
  4. The replies from Bairso and Python4933 seem to sum it up. Some people have no trouble at all and others give it up as a bad job.

    I'm wondering if the main cause of the problems is the Android phone. The non-appearance of the Ducati Link App for Android suggests to me that the DVT BT system is iOS centric.

    I don't have a problem with experimenting but there aren't that many options to try and I've run out of ideas.
     
  5. I have to admit that I don't use my sat nav with the BT duc system, as I have a tomtom rider 400 which simply does not want to connect to the DVT (may be tomtom's fault or ducati's... Don't know)
    I would first try to get the latest updates from your duc dealer to be sure, that you have the newest BT system version on it.
    Then erase all the BT connections in your DVT menue and first establish the connection to your phone and DVT (that will basically be your main hub to your com system). After that, the rider com system and after that the sat nav. I think you really do need to follow a certain order while pairing, otherwise the device pairings might get messed up.
     
  6. Info on the Ducati website on the multi media system. it might help
    Tips
     
  7. Ive got same issues with mine using iOS. Music is hit and miss garmin zumo 590 is very quiet and first part of instruction distorted. Paired passenger to it n she didn't hear music. Will retry it again but if that doesn't work the sat nav n Schuberth C3 can manage it all. Worked fine on my other bike this way. Which is a bit of a shame cos I bought the zumo to pair to the system given my tomtom doesn't.:rage:
     
  8. Yes, the videos on this website helpfully demonstrate how the bluetooth setup is supposed to work. Unfortunately if it fails to work, the video has nothing to contribute.
     
  9. I've been successful in connecting a Motorola Moto G Android phone and Schuberth SRC Pro headset to the Ducati Multimedia System. All the controls for playing music etc. work fine but I get interruptions in sound when playing music. It appears this is an Android Bluetooth implementation problem that hasn't been fixed even at Android 6.0.

    I've not tried to connect my Garmin Zumo 660 Sat Nav as I don't use the audible prompts, I just look at the display as it's in in an ideal position using a Navihaulter.

    I've gone back to using a Sena SM10 dual channel Bluetooth adapter for playing music from an ipod Nano to my Schuberth SRC Pro headset and my wive's CardoScala Rider Q1 headset. Even this is a bit flaky and I have to re-pair the headsets to the adapter regularly.
     
  10. Steve, what have you seen that supports this possibility? If I bypass the DVT BT system altogether then everything works fine and that leads me to believe that the bike's BT system is the culprit.

    This evening I plan to experiment with the order in which the individual components are paired to the bike, so far I have randomly connected the components. Also, the bike is in for it's first service on Monday and I will ask the dealer to check that all the BT software is up to date.
     
  11. My android phone and f5 headset link with the DVT no issues. The Zumo 660 won't no matter what order I try. The DVT recognises the Zumo. The Zumo recognises the DVT but they just won't pair. I prefer the ease of use using the DVT as a hub rather than pressing the headset and find the controls for music and receiving the two calls I've had to be very easy. Most calls I don't answer when riding but these two came when sat at the tunnel waiting for check in
     
  12. I find exactly that too.
     
  13. I tried a few more combinations last night but to no avail. At one stage it looked like things were going well until I connected the sat nav, at which point everything seemed to stop working.

    I did notice that the Sena 20s headset never actually confirms that it has paired correctly even though it appeared to work (sometimes).

    For the time being I have given up with the DVT BT system and paired everything directly to the intercom. I may give it one more go if it turns out that the bike does not have the latest BT software installed.

    It's all a bit disappointing :cry:
     
  14. I didn't buy the bike because of the hub but I do expect it to work. Japanese and German bike tend to achieve that. My MV doesn't miss a beat but is no where near the tech of the DVT. I'll stick with sat nav to f5 and the rest to the bike until it next goes to the garage
     
  15. I have nothing to offer to this discussion so please either ignore or tell me off! I've just done a 1500 mile tour round the uk avoiding motorways until the last day, a slog from Hawick in the borders to Exeter.

    At no point did I need Bluetooth or sat nav or music, I just enjoyed the ride. I had a visual sat nav only when totally lost on my phone mounted on the bars backed up with an external battery, easily lasted all day.

    Just want to know if riding solo why all this stuff is needed? I also want to know why everyone has earphones in all day every day when the world around has more to offer than any music ever written plus safety on a bike requires using your ears?
     
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  16. Hey Clarkey, that's a perfectly reasonable point but it comes down to personal preference and the application of some common sense. Most of my riding is two-up in Europe which often means a lot of unavoidable motorway miles, I find that some music breaks up the monotony and helps me maintain concentration. Around unfamiliar cities I prefer to hear the sat nav instructions and keep my eyes on the road.
     
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  17. I have tried all possible combinations with the bike's system. First connect the satnav, after deleting all connections. No connection on the Nav slot, connection on the phone slot.
    Tried with another unit (590), no connection on the satnav slot.
    Tips given are for the Garmin/Ducati 390 unit. I have the 595 LM.
    My headset is a Sena S20. My problem is, if I can't use the GPS slot on the bike, I have to connect it direct to the Sena. That uses the second phone slot on it. Since I have to have PMR for escorts, via SR10 and Kenwood, I can't connect them. For me that's a major catastrophe.
     
  18. Caratz, you're at risk of spending the rest of your life trying to get the MTS hub to work for you!!

    Ignoring the MTS system completely you can connect the GPS to the 20S without using a phone profile. See Section 5.4 Bluetooth GPS Navigation Pairing in the 20S Manual. This method does not connect via a phone profile which means you will get navigation instructions but will not be able to play stereo music from the 595.

    Alternatively, pair your phone to the GPS and then pair the GPS to the 20S using just a single phone profile.

    Hope this helps.
     

  19. That's how it works at the moment, but as I said, I have a problem with the PMR unit that I need for escorts.....
     
  20. You said the problem was that the GPS uses the second phone connection. I'm saying it doesn't have to.
     
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