Received a NIP in the post yesterday for allegedly doing 61 in a 30 in Merseyside on Sunday evening. Thing is, I was sat in my neighbours back garden drinking wine and eating pizza at the time of the alleged infringement. Bike was safely locked up in garage about 200 yard away from me, plus I live over 100 miles away in East Yorkshire. I hope it's not too difficult to prove it wasn't me, but what do I do about the fact that there is some tosser out there clearly riding like a dick you my reg number! Looks like I will have to fork out to change my reg with the DVLA.
Was it the same make and model of bike........?? Someone once tried that on with my personal plate on my car..........they got the wrong make of car and mine had been on my car for 11 years.
I had a NIP through a few years ago claiming I'd been speeding in the Blackpool area one Sunday, and I knew I hadn't as I hadn't been to Blackpool for at least 20 years. So I rang the police up to ask if they could provide me with pics of the offending car. When they checked the pics they had they found that they'd recorded the wrong registration number when issuing the NIP. I got them to cancel mine and confirm, in writing, that they had done. Just in case it reared it's ugly head.
Was allegedly my Superduke 1290 not the Stroodle. So far the Merseyside enforcement unit have asked me to email over a picture of the back of my bike and a covering statement, which I have done. They will check against the photo on file. When I called, the operator looked at the photo and said it was definitely my reg number so it's not just a camera or clerical cock up. I asked for them to send me a copy of their photos but so far they've refused. Anyway I have at least 6 witnesses to say I was over 100 miles away at the time but I can just see that this is going to be a major hassle.
They only have to check the the make and model against the reg number to confirm if the bike in there picture matches the registered bike surely!!!!
Did it tell you the make and model?. They should send you a photo. I doubt it will even come to that, can't see them taking action against you without providing you or a solicitor with some evidence. I doubt it will go that far and I am sure you'll be fine. This happened to Police officers daughter... "Hers relates to allegedly having been clocked speeding by Speedwatch, It's her registration, but this relates to a completely different model of car" Response via email... "Good afternoon, I have, today, received your letter dated XXXXX regarding the above reference number. Whilst I can confirm the registration number detailed on the letter, ******, is indeed registered to myself at my home address the vehicle description is incorrect, the registration number relates to a [insert make and model] and NOT XXXXXXX as the letter states. I can only presume one of two things; 1) The plates have been cloned, as both are still on the vehicle and have never been changed (I have owned the vehicle since the first registration) 2) The index has been noted wrongly Also I would like to bring to your attention that the vehicle was actually parked outside my daughter's place of work in XXXXX at the time of the alleged offence so was some considerable distance away. I note that you state that no action will be taken but the report will be held on your systems for a period of 12 months. I respectfully request, as per law, that the details are removed from your database as you are now aware that this is, in fact, incorrect and no offence has been committed by my vehicle. It is an offence to keep information on record that is known to be inaccurate. The make and model can be confirmed on the Police National Computer and any journey for the date in question be tracked via ANPR cameras. Could you please notify me as soon as possible that this has been removed and also acknowledgment that this offence did not involve my vehicle. Many thanks and kind regards Then forget about it.
you'd think that if someone was going to clone a plate, they'd pick one fitted to a vehicle of the same model and colour, wouldn't you?
Not necessarily. If you keep your head down you can drive around on cloned plates for years without anyone noticing. Assuming the cloned plates are from a vehicle belonging to a law abiding citizen who pays their tax and insurance and MOTs their vehicle it will never show up on an ANPR system so the criminal will be able to drive around illegally without ever being picked up. Only when they are stupid enough to commit a crime in the vehicle will it be brought to someone's attention that the plates have been cloned.
Yes,but wouldn't it flag up on Anpr, the make and colour? If you enter your registration number on the Dvla website, it does.
my own blue zx9 had a clone too . I recieved a speeding fine from a camera on the M25 . The picture of the bike was a perfect match but I live in near newcastle some 300 miles away . I had to get my company to prove that I was actually at work at the time and was clocked in by security. Luckily for me the transport manager for the company I work for is also a magistrate who works closely with the police and dealt with it for me .
According to my Plod brother, regretfully the divs at the ticket issuing office nearly always refuse to take the word of 'witnesses' who vouch for you being elsewhere at the time...........they prefer to see documentation that proves innocence, say a credit card transaction by the card holder / vehicle owner indicating the location, time and date........ Perhaps the OP paid for the pizza?
I was dragged out of bed one night by 2 policemen who wanted to know why I had left my bike under a flyover in Plymouth written off.Ihad to show that mine was in my locked garage,some oaf had cloned my plate.
The ANPR system does detail the vehicle make and model. However it flags up vehicles without insurance, tax or MOT thereby notifying plod to pull you over. I don't believe that plod ever sit by the roadside checking that the make and model of every vehicle that passes them matches what the ANPR says. Once they are notified of a cloned plate then that will flag on the ANPR system.
You don't have to prove your innocence - the prosecution has to prove your guilt. OK, so they have good evidence that a vehicle displaying the reg. no. of your vehicle committed an offence at a certain place and time, but they do not have any evidence that the number plate was actually attached to your vehicle. Since it is commonplace for number plates to be cloned, the prosecution would have to prove that it was not a clone in this case.
Happened to my uncle on a 990 super duke. Luckily he could prove he was elsewhere but the cloned bike was same make/model/colour. I assume I'd be ok as I have a tracker on my bike. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Slightly off topic....colleague of mine had a different number plate on the back of his car to the correct one on the front for 3 years, he never noticed and it was only picked up at the mot. It was completely different not just a sequential number thing too
I did have a plate cloned. A car with my number on it was recorded as having a collision on Great Yarmouth - a place neither I nor my car have ever been to. The Norfolk police later caught the perpetrator and confirmed to me in writing that it had been a clone. So what's your point Al?
