1200 Headlights Bulbs.....again

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by NSR500, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. #1 NSR500, Sep 18, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2016
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  2. Worth a punt but I recon you will get a error on your dash showing.
     
  3. Not enough power draw?
     
  4. I bought some very similar but the wouldn't fit through the mounting hole because they were that fat. let me know how you get on.
     
  5. My recommendation would be to use a product such as Rings +120% H11 bulb. Phllips and Osram will doubtless have their own versions. They are road legal and have normal current draw so wont affect your warning lights. They are also whiter than std halogen.
     
  6. No, the headlights are driven through relays so the CANBUS has no idea how much current they draw.
     
  7. Do you not get a warning light on these bikes when a bulb blows then?
     
  8. No. Only if a relay fails.
     
  9. Interesting.. I'm new to Dukes after 14 years of boxer GS's.. Everything you do is monitored on those f****s!
     
  10. This subject comes up again and again. LED headlights are no good for seeing the road ahead unless they are a whole headlight system designed for that. They look nice though.
    The seller describes them as 80 watt, rubbish! They are LEDs so will not draw 80 watts of power. What does the 80 watts mean? Not light output as that is measured in lumen and not watts.
    The halogen 55watt bulb has been around for decades now and has reached the peak of its development years ago. It will not get any better. The best halogen bulb compared against the worst will have no more than around 5% difference in light output. Companies who tell you that they get 20% more are telling you lies to get you to pay over the odds for their bulbs - they are a business that exists to make money.
    Go and buy them, it is after all your money.
     
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  11. I no longer ride BMWs after owning them all of my life, the reason is that with the canbus on the modern BMWs, everything is monitored and there is not much you can change yourself.
     
  12. So what do you ride now @Bob T ?
     
  13. At the moment 848, ST2, 1991 BMW K100RS, any one of them could change any day though, depends what I feel like getting next.
     
  14. These won't be that suitable as they are driving lights.
    But I run a variant of the below on another bike and they certainly were an improvement on the stock 55w and have no throw problems. Note how it replicates the throw of a halogen to suit headlight units that aren't designed for led bulbs.

    These aren't for the multi but it's this kind of lumens you want to be looking for. The wattage is the complete draw of the fitted set. They should also have some kind of cooling which you also need to consider the fit of.

    90W 9600LM LED Headlight Kit Bulb Car Daytime Driving Light Hi-Low Beam White | eBay
     
  15. No halogen headlight was ever designed to use LED bulbs.
    Led headlights are completely different to the reflector design of halogen ones.
     
  16. Correct a halogen headlight is not designed for led bulbs, but in the link I provided you'll see that the led bulbs are designed to mimic halogen bulbs and therefore throw light for the halogen reflectors.

    Philips make these which shield in the same way a halogen h4 would, so the dispersal will be very different to those in the OP's link and should suit standard reflectors better. That's certainly been my experience with my single bulb bike.

    X-treme Ultinon LED Car Lamp 12953BWX2 | Philips
     
  17. A 5 mm long cylinder of wire throwing light out at every angle (halogen) into a reflector can never be mimicked by any amount of LEDs throwing light out in a precise direction. No manufacturer of motor vehicles uses an LED in a normal halogen reflector, it does not work.
     
  18. I have just put an Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited, in next to an older Osram Nightbreaker Plus and it is noticeably whiter. Not sure if there is any other 'benefit', as I haven't ridden it in the dark yet? The main beams are the original Osram Halogen H11's and they are more yellow again than both, albeit we are talking about relatively small graduations?
    Tried to capture it, but the iPhone doesn't really show the difference (Unlimited is on the near side of the bike). image.jpeg
     
  19. Just fitted some new bulbs for the dipped beam. The main beam are the "upgraded" Osram Nightbreaker Plus. What do you think?
    Light Main.jpg
    Main beam (yellow)
    Light Dip LED.jpg
    Dipped beam (blue white)
     
    #19 Kirky, Mar 2, 2017
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  20. Fit an HID kit if you can, you can spend loads on dubious claims for halogen bulbs and they are all pretty much the same despite prices varying from £2-£20. HIDs are brighter, proper daylight white (or bluish if you prefer) and use half the power.
     
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