Recruitment Agents.

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Nasher, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Ive experienced a woman whos so dominant in her industry that she's actually stunted wage growth for years.

    As others have said use them as a very last resort, experience obviously helps there.
     
  2. Don't get me started on how they conduct them selves on the phone......

    Favourite responses of mine are:

    "Sorry, what does Yeah hi mean, are you American?"

    "Sorry I don't remember you calling 3 months ago, every one of the three Insert product of choice sales guys that's phoned me every day since has sounded just like you".

    "If you call me mate again I'll put the phone down, this is the first time we've spoken and I'm only mates with people who I have any respect for."
    Or
    "Sorry, it really isn't appropriate for you to call me mate, you probably wouldn't like me."
    That one really puts them off their patter.

    On the other hand, if she sounds nice, she might get an appointment next week.

    Nasher.
     
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  3. As ive been out of the "needing a job" game for so long i thought these days it was only recruitment agencies that you used....its not like you go and get the local paper and have a look at the back...or flick through the pull out?!
     
  4. My Grandfather was an Architect. The modern ones are useless fucks. Ive worked in a few architectural practices in my time and know just how bad they are by comparison. Not one of the useless fops could do a load beam analysis or work out a moment. My Grandfather was also a Capt in REME during WW2. I still use his old drawings sets today given the opportunity.

    I do occassionally meet a good one. Usually one man bands. But as a whole, RIBA should be ashamed of the drivel they produce and the additional cost thay add to a job because of their slap dash and shoddy workmanship.
     
  5. They never look as nice as they sound, normally quite the opposite.
    Errrrr are you refering to Mayfair and Penthouse magazines.

    I use an external company to get drawing work done, the industry I am in has strict colour codings for various pressure tiers, I have set up two standard frame templates (gas & electric) with layer formats embedded so I do not get any adhoc layering names. Plus I have also given a the company a strict process to follow with regards to when they have finished the drawing, to ensure the default layer 0 is the active layer and they purge the drawing to ensure all unused layers are then removed.
    It works really well and I get exactly what I ask for as a finished product.

    It helps that I am well versed in 2d and 3d Cad.
     
  6. You all sound like a clever bunch...all i do is make sure the cad works....catia, solidworks, NX, autocad....we use quite a lot of packages here...fucked if i know how to use them....i just make sure they work....
     
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  7. Wished you worked in our IT department, I have to tell them how to install it properly.
     
  8. I can use them all. Its not rocket science. All you need is spatial awareness and the ability to move shapes around in your mind. Its my only talent. If you exclude being a pest, a nuisance and an irritant.
     
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  9. Do you do any GIS/Geospatioal stuff in Cad ?
     
  10. I dont tend to use any of them any more too much. I'm apparently too expensive to do my own CAD work and thus its all marked up for our CAD dept, despite my insistence that its quicker for me to cad it than draw the damned things by pen and give it to cad. The only CAD I do these days is fixing useless architectural GA's to use for my Thermal Modelling and CFD analysis. But I used to CAD for a living where you got paid by the drawing back in the day. Mainly trace monkeying, until I developed a talent for telling the engineers that their designs didnt work and showing them what did instead. And thats how I fell into this daft industry. Wish I'd kept quiet.

    Ive not done any GIS/Geospatial work in my time. Soz. Cant be that hard if you can do it. :) Hehehe
     
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  11. CAD you say ? Hmmmmm, interesting. I'm the original Boots.........

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  12. Meh - ways to skin a cat....autodesk uses a vaulting system, solidworks a floating licence with central build, nx uses LMTools, catia, well that can be customised to kingdom come ( and ive gotta say i dont get involved in that) my mate at work deals with catia ( he's been an admin for 30 years ) and knows his stuff...even he admits catia is sometimes baffling...im like the mechanic that never drives the car....i see it start then walk away!
     
  13. Ha ha bless your cotton sock's
    I am upper management but it bores me silly and I miss playing with the drawings and doing the dirty work, so I insist on keeping my hand in so that I can also keep up with the latest innovations and changes in the software.
    Can you not write a script to fix the GA's ??
    I have written a few scripts lately, in essence they pick up the drawing from a specific place, populates the label (dynamic Block) and other Dynamic blocks based on information held in an excel spreadsheet, then saves to a specific directory, thats just one of the simpler scripts I've written, there are more complex ones that involves importing based on specific parameters.
     
  14. Awesome....that sounded cool...i have no idea what he's talking about...
     
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  15. The problem at our place is all admin privillages have been taken away from all user accounts except IT.
    So they have to install the software on each PC individually, they log in as an administrator install the software then run it to ensures it starts ok, they then log out. Job done.
    Oh no its not
    There is a known conflict with cad that when installed like that at some point when the user is logged in and say starts to use Excel or Word the cad programme thinks it is being asked to be installed and the installer starts all over again but because you are logged in as a normal user it doesnt run properly and causes no end of problems.
    I point this out every time we get a cad update and they insist on doing it their way first which is fooking WRONG.

    The correct process is to change the users account to admin install the software under that users account then revert the user back to normal no admin privillages.
     
  16. That's because he's in upper lower middle senior management and speaks fluent jargon.....:):)
     
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  17. Boots will understand exactly what I am talking about and I am sure comfy old sofa does as well really, as he will use scripts to define what a user gets access to depending on their logon credentials :p
     
  18. Yep - We're a bit sneaky - most cad users we give admin priviledges without them knowing it....works out better for us then as we can run stuff as them.....Solidworks is probably the nicest as you can build a central version, update that then push it out to the client machines....easy...Catia: antiquated (not because of it) but because of strict versioning between aircraft. NX: not so bad but very manual...bat file central...which package are you using?
     
  19. No Cupids a script or a lisp routine wouldnt be enough to deal with the pure awfulness and variety off asshat tomfoolery that your average twat of an architect could come up with. My only useful one is a 'flatten' lisp, which puts all their junk on one plane and removes their 3D items for a 2d variant. Everything else means I have to go in and essentially fix their GA's. Honestly, what wrong with using ortho or object snaps? To them as long as it looks good on an A1 it doesnt matter. But I need 100% accuracy.
     
  20. I use AutoCad Map 3d because it has geospatial/GIS components which I rely on heavily, the standard cad package for what I need is near useless.
    Our IT department have locked down so much stuff, I can't use the CD rom or USB ports :(
    But I have found a way round that, work laptop comes home with me so I can work from home but still have to log in to my client machine (desktop PC at work)
    So over wireless at home I can copy stuff to the laptop, take it to work and plug in via network cable and transfer to server drives :)
    HA HA HA
     
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