1199R-SR Project Here is a brief outline for my R winter transformation, STTK (SuperStock) specification + a few extra's. My design brief is for a pure race look but (barely) street legal "Street Racer" no directionals - high beam - 1 bar end mirror, inspired from the early days of articles in UK's Fastbike & Bike mag's on pukka 916 955 SP road race builds, and most recently Koen's Roche Tribute & Track Bike builds. Stage 1:- STTK long header pipe kit (thanks "Thamer") Kaemna STTK ECU, with ABS & chip ignition switch delete Custom brake lines w/ QD connects, QD front wheel kit STTK radiator & oil cooler (thanks" Thamer ") Samco hose kit Moto holders seat & fairing w/ MWR oversized intake race filter Tamburini velocity stacks & injector stands & fuel tank ( larger air vol') Carbon/Kevlar fairing kit, DP race seat LH - RH race switch ass's, lanyard kill switch Magnesium triple clamp adj' offset - OZ Mag' forged wheels Ohlins MK2 shock & Nix cartridge kit or may go with KTECH ? 24 deg insert DP susp' Gyro potentiometer sensors PS3 shift with auto blip down shift Thumb rear brake. Micro LED headlight hidden flush in air intake Stage 2:- SL cams - pistons, Ti intake valves - crank - Mag' ft frame box close ratio gear set, Ti piston wrist pins I may buy used R engine for this conversion Carbon Ceramic brake rotors - WSB Brembo calipers & masters First things first next week I will have base Dyno run, if I have enough time 2nd with headers & air filter, still deciding Sprint or MWR ,,,,,?
Another nice project If ya looking for a spare R engine speak to this guy(if hasnt sold it already) He wants 6300 euro for his spare refreshed one, but open to offers. Would go well with that 2013 Corse System He also selling in the link Reparto-Corse-Anlage Ducati 1199 Panigale, Ducati Corse, Termignoni | eBay The bike is 100% Carbon, Inc the Frame, well except the few alloy bits.
Do your base Dyno run, post the results, finish it, Dyno it again, then don't tell anyone the results, it will be so much fun. Can't wait
Thanks for the info, interesting on the Exh' anyone have info on the new retail price. Regards to the engine I found 1 here in USA for $6500, that's what they seem to go for which is around 20% less than Europe
Maybe I will release cryptic portions of the final dyno results or maybe I'll just quote them as adequate or sufficient
Where you taking it? My guess are 192 on a good dyno, 215 on a wow dyno get some big crayons... Nice to see people making their R's their own
I have been told by Carl and another memeber, that it £4500 new for just the S/Steel pipework and £6500 for complete system, more if titanium.
Had a italian seller offer me Febur lower kit rad for 850 euro secondhand (1300 euro new) but told him can get the Mac Raditor copy version for less, think was around 750 euro when I asked just as he starting making and selling them. I am trying to find someone who will make 35mm cored upper rad for not rip off price just because its for a motorbike. Cheapest so far is £450. Which seems bad considering the same place does huge 50mm cored car rads for half that.
Re Dyno runs, only thing that matters is using the same dyno & setting for all tests, once I have the base run I'm only concern with the total area under the power curve, I know the STTK header shifts the power and has broader mid range with a small increase on top end. I would like the WSB system but might have to wait a bit.
Ok so today I removed all the bodywork and ran the bike over the the local HD dealer to get a base Dyno Run, the shop told me right away that they have low output readings and many people are disappointed with the peak numbers, most important think is the power curve and the total area under the curve. So here it is probably the lowest number ever posted but the curve looks good just like all the other R's I have seen posted. Well it can improve from here
This was first tap about 3x this amount of bugs & dirt eventually came out, OE + 3000 miles. Removed seat frame, full Termignoni system & lower radiator pretty pain staking work but very satisfying, galled threads on rear O2 sensor, dealer didn't use any anti seize, also had to remove the small M10 thread caps on the header pipes for transfer to STTK headers. I have the option to keep or remove the plastic lower radiator elec' fan with supplied modified tunnel & the thermostat housing. I'm removing both, I can see the grams & eventually KG's coming off, the full Term's have cast stainless Cyl' port outlets while the STTK is fabricated stainless, noticeably lighter. This is the mess I have right now as I call it a night This is only image I could find of how the installed oil-rad' cooler should look
I like the way you post the before Dyno run in all it glory, just so it a bigger wind up when you don't post the final one for comparison, it could be fun - don't let me down Just out of interest, why are Dyno's not calibrated so they are accurate from one to another? If that one is running low and people complain why don't they get it recalibrated. Or is it just every Dyno in the country reads low as people always expect more and they are in fact all the same?
Theirs just a lot of variables in the electro - mech sensors, bearings etc. I'm @ 4850 ft and the dyno supposed to have a calibration factor for sea level, as long as I use the same dyno the results will be valid. I bet If I went to the west coast and used one of the new units v 10yr old I bet I would have higher peak numbers, I'll probably do that at some stage with same tune level just for a comparison
I thought American Dyno's were always calibrated to read more? - we call it American BHP over here to distinguish between the two... :Shifty:
I think it's maybe the car brigade with their exaggerations from when my mate built his modified corvette. I remember them calling it ABHP in the UK mags :smile: I think it was a piss take on Top Gear once too...
Worked all day, had to skip the thermostat removal requires pulling off the airbox frame so will leave that until i can combine it with SAS servo removal - 24deg steering inserts - triple clamps etc. I now have the STTK long headers, replaced stock water/oil cooler with the MACS front mount oil cooler - radiator & adaptor plate. Tried to upload the STTK map but display this map was already loaded. See the difference in length because the Cyl' head stub mounts are fab'd instead of cast these longer pipes are noticeably lighter, could be thinner wall stainless , coated all slip joints with copperslip took quite a bit of fiddling to get the cans on though, once it heat cycles a couple times should take a set. The fan & tunnel no longer installed, some weight loss already achieved, wait a see when I finished where I end up. Just took went out for a ride, has noticeable improved mid range hit V the fully Term' s short header, even after a hard quick blast the temp never went above 176F, it's even more of a wheelie machine than it was before __________________
Remember you have DIN SAE @ PS power ratings, Dynojet is default SAE as quoted on print out Since I'm at 4850 ft elevation which equates to 14.4% power loss
