2017 Scrambler Icon 800 - Clutch Replacement

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Bibendum, Aug 14, 2024.

  1. Hello all,

    First post, apologies for jumping straight in. My girlf has a 2017 Scrambler Icon 800 which has done circa 13k miles. Recently the clutch has started slipping regardless of what free play is set at the lever so I'm guessing the clutch is done and needs replacing. A Google search suggests this is a known issue with the clutch wearing abnormally quickly and a few YT videos are offered up.

    Has anyone on here experienced this/changed their clutch? If so, can you just replace the friction plates or do you need to replace the steels too? Do you need the Ducati special clutch holding tool? I ask because the one video I've watched so far didn't feature any special tools.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Generally, no special tools required. Unless you want to remove the basket. Steel plates can be retained. You just replace the friction plates. I dont know if its a dry or wet clutch on the scrambler. If dry, then remove cover. Undo the 6 spring compression bolts evenly in a cross pattern. Then remove clutch compression cover plate thing or whatever its called that the 6 bolts bolt through and then remove plates. Note the order. Replace with new plates and measure stack height. I think 36.5mm but someone can advise.

    If wet, then new plates should soak in engine oil for 24hrs or so. Allegedly. I say allegedly as Ive soaked for a few hours before and no probs. Then its similar to above. Also if wet clutch, lean bike over so the engine oil doesnt leak when you remove clutch cover. I zip tie my front brake level and lean my bikes on nearest safe vert surface. This is usually garage wall. Put a rag or something over bar end to avoid scratches. I tend to use a bath loofah I stole from my wife. Handy.

    Good luck. Its an easy job and about 30mins, altho I can do a dry clutch in 15.
     
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  3. Thank you, very helpful. I *think* the Scrambler is a wet clutch, only because the videos I've watched and the Haynes manual warn about oil loss unless the bike is on the side stand.
     
  4. This^^^

    I don't know about that particular bike, but on others, the pressure plate has to go back in the right position (arrow next to the pillar with a slot on it?).
     
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  5. Good reminder, this was mentioned on one of the videos but I'd forgotten it.
     
  6. The early Scramblers got one of two clutches (FCC or APTC) depending on where it was built. Not sure who your local dealer is but they should be able to confirm which one you have from your VIN. If the cost of the OE friction plates is scary, I believe NEWFREN offer a cost effective alternative. 13,000 miles seems pretty consistent for the life of the friction plates on the ICON. Andy
     
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  7. Newfren plates need 2hrs of soak only. How do I know? Coz my 1299 started slipping in 6th t'other night so i bought new plates. £200.

    Sods Law
     
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  8. Started on this yesterday. The clutch cover feels like it's been welded on, almost battering it with a rubber mallet to no effect.

    My next thoughts are to try to get a screwdriver in between the cover and engine body or to turn on the Mapgas torch...
     
  9. Mangas torch might be a bit excessive, but warming the cover up defiantly helps.
     
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  10. Hmm, I'll have to think of a different way to warm the engine - removed the exhaust to get better access to the clutch cover.
     
  11. Heat gun would be my pick. You could try just pouring boiling/hot water over the cover?
     
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  12. Concentrate on the join rather than the whole casing. I use a heat gun. You’re just after softening the sealant. Even a hairdryer will do the job
     
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  13. A kettle of boiling water and some gentle prising apart using a crow bar and the clutch cover is off.

    Friction plates standard is 2.8mm, service limit is 2.6mm. all of my plates are between 2.3mm and 2.5mm. Off to call a Ducati dealer now to find out which clutch and how much.
     
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  14. Called my local dealer, Laguna Ashford Ducati to enquire about the clutch - £233. Can only buy a full set of plates, no official option for friction plates only. I did find a listing for friction plates only on eBay from China but I'm thinking that is likely false economy.

    As luck would have it, my Aprilia Caponord ran out of electricity too at the weekend, all tests point towards a new reg/rec. Manual says that the subframe has to be removed to gain access.

    I was warned about Italian bikes. :astonished::joy:
     
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