748 748r-02 Considerations

The fairing seems correct, it is a flat one piece.
The airbox on the 2001-2002-2003 should be carbon, it maybe carbon, but if marked in the accident it may have been painted.
If its been sat for a while it will need a full service, look at arounf £5-600, could be a bit of a bargaining tool.

 

Early 748R airboxes were body coloured. The slab sided panels on the R were split and formed a 4 piece set which incorporated the bellypan which was not full length on the original bike. It could have a race setup which is two sides and a full bellypan, there are other options that would fit as well like 998S etc. which is two split bolted sides a bellypan that is open underneath, or the 998R which has a carbon bellypan and carbon sidepanels again three piece.

If its been damaged it's likely there are some original parts missing or that have been replaced with different items.

Some photos might help to identify any areas that are not original.

 

Hi, my mate has a 2001r with Ohlins , the lower airbox is carbon and one piece so yes should not be yellow. If it has the radiator vents then it should be a split fairing and no 'belly' like on the later deep sump 998.

Here is a pic of my mates, ignore the colour, the camera didn't like strip lights




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MY02 748R were fitted with two piece unvented fairings similar to the MY02 748S, E and 998 base models although they did have different part numbers, they had no belly pan and had Carbon airboxes fitted. They left the factory mostly like this

or this


These are Ducati official photos

I would recommend downloading the Ducati parts book for that specific model year to get an idea what has been changed from the OEM equipment

 

Just to add to the debate I have a 748R airbox from a 2001 model and it is Yellow and plastic. 748R's did vary a bit depending on what Ducati had on the shelf. The lack of Ohlins steering damper on some so called full Ohlins models is another example, some were fitted with a stock non adjustable type.

 

True, on my mates it has a stock steering damper! Weird! Tbf it was only just after the glory days of things like some Senna models having stock pipes, some having race ones


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And it should have no writing on the front cylinder head? The stock engines had 'desmo' or something similar... And the cam covers should be spaced because the R has wider belts, that way it must be an R


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The large injectors were on all models and they can only be fitted if a 748R frame or 998 frame are used or the frame is modified to allow them to fit. It would need to be gone through to see just what is original and what has\may have been replaced on the bike you have in mind.

The 748R engined bike also has one water pipe going round the outside of the frame tube, whereas no other models in the 748 range had this, although the 998 did as well.

As mentioned there are other differences that can be seen, heads, an obvious oil cooler, although not unique to the R, Ohlins rear shock on the later models and obviously the Front Ohlins forks where applicable, Marchesini 5 spoke wheels, black graphics on the seat unit and the sides of the seat, which are only stickers but are only on later 748R's.

What front brake calipers does it have? it should have P4\34 front brake calipers which have four individual pads per caliper, early models did not.

 

Subframe is wrong and most definitely not the one fitted to the R. Caliper doesn't look right either but I need to check mine to be sure. I suspect that this is a bitza restoration using whatever bits came to hand. May well be a genuine frame and engine but a lot of the other bits appear not. Just re read your first post and as a Cat D that is exactly what it is, a bitza from varioys model year parts. If you want a genuine R my advice is to walk away. If you are happy with bike made from bits go for it but don't pay more than £2500 because that's all the bits are worth. Andy

 

Messer some more details follow. Check the fairing, I would suspect a racing (cheaper equivalent) fairing has been used and an air box from a MY00 bike. Interesting that both have been changed - is there any other evidence of a prang. Bar ends, footrests, levers, fairing stays can show much. As Andy has said below (edit) this is a bitsa that has been repaired by someone on a budget, buyer beware

Further edit. The frame number is within 400 of my MY02 S and has exactly the same format (I may be wrong but I thought Rs had a letter variation), I would put the frame assembly date as April 2001. It will be stamped on the frame. Have you had the numbers validated by Ducati?

This puts a little detail on the evolution of the model from SPS to MY02, all courtesy of Falloon
MY00
Kyalami Frame (Grey)
Plastic 14L coloured air box (standard is only 8L)
Shortened 54mm throttle body with single shower injector
36mm and 30mm valves
Hi lift cams (10.5mm ex and 12.5mm in)
Various engine improvements over the 748SPS
19mm belts
520w 3ph alternator
Slipper Clutch
1.6M ecu
106bhp at 11k rpm
5 spoke Marchesini wheels (grey)
Showa forks TiN stanchions
Showa rear shock
Newer style clutch master cyl
Yellow mono only
Termi and chip provided (fitted increase in power to 112bhp at the crank)
Built 1999-2000 (approx. 1000 built of which 150 were UK spec))


MY01
Lighter flywheel
Crank mods, lightened pistons
Slightly improved gear selector drum
Carbon fibre 14l airbox
996 ratios except 4th
Lightened Kyalami frame
Ohlins 43mm forks TiN stanchions
Ohlins rear shock
Lightened 320mm x 4.5mm discs/carriers and 4mm x 34mm callipers
15mm front brake master cyl
Available in red and yellow, yellow only in US
Boge steering rack (US got the Ohlins)
Fitted with a plaque
Built 2000-2001, approx. 460 yellow (21 uk) and 550 red (60uk))


MY02
As MY01 but with new fairings and decals
Built 2001-2002 (numbers anyone?)

 

Clearly there are a lot of wrong parts on this bike for the model year, it looks like it has aftermarket exhausts, the wheels are the wrong colour, as mentioned the subframe is wrong, wrong fairing, the seat is wrong, the brakes are wrong and no doubt with more close up photos there could be other things missing or incorrect.

As for price that would be up to yourself and what you want to pay.

Fundamentally though it is still a 748R engined bike which if you don't want originality then it could be worth a look.

Performance wise it will be better than any stock 748 Biposto and some of those are now going for much more than is being asked for this one. I would weigh it up, possibly make an offer and then go from there. Originality could be restored if you wanted that to happen but would take time and money.