Hi, Whilst Cal has probably got a gear indicator on his bike, but doesn't need it.... I don't have one; but do need one... Going to fit race fairings on the 848 soon, and want to fit a gear indicator whilst the front end is in bits... I forget what gear I'm in as soon as I leave the pit lane... Keen for any recommendations of ones that work well and are easy to fit to a 2010 non evo 848... Many thanks, Bob
I have one of these , I haven't fitted it yet because you need to join it into the loom , something I'm not keen on doing , I may get a second hand loom off ebay and have a go .
Got GiPro HealTech on my 1098, should work for the 848 too. I remember back when the 1098s came out a lot of conventional gear indicators would not work, I think the RPM pulse was too weak to detect. It only indicates the gears and gives a "-" when in neutral. Can occasionally be caught out but comes good pretty quick. You can get it with different color displays. Needs an RPM signal, a wheel pulse and power, its hardly a rewire!! I have some pictures of where I picked up the signals and the install should you go down this route and/or need John
Old Jock, Thanks... I have had a look and seen a GIpro DS and a GIpro X Can I ask which one you have... Seems that the X has more features, but the DS more plug and play??? I'd appreciate the pictures of your install at some time. I started to remove the rear shock and fairing today, so would like to get one fitted before I put it all back together... Thanks, Bob
Hi Bob Not a problem I have (according to the instructions) the DS type. If you check compatibility on GiPros site I don't think 1098 & 848 can use the straight X Type, all very confusing as the box states X type HealTech Electronics Ltd. - Makers of the SpeedoHealer, GIpro, X-TRE, FI Tuner Pro, Brake Light Pro, MM5, OBD Tool Click on a gear indicator then Compatibility and select the 848 it will then tell you what works If you PM me your email address and I can send you the GiPRo instructions for the indicator the wiring harness plus a set of instructions I made after doing the 1098 which at least has a few pictures. Hope that helps John
Oh to answer about setting it up you need to go through the gears for it to learn the ratios and disable the warning functions for RPM (the flashing drove me bloody nuts). So Yes you need to set it up but its no more than 10 minutes faffing about and its done forever (unless you want to change it, you can do a reset and reprogram it again if you need to) John
Why do you "need" one? Can't you remember what gear you're in or work out from the revs the gear that you're in?
I pretty much know what gear I am in all of the time on any of the bikes. Im not being funny here, but I never seen the point of them?
I thought that this thread may go this way... Why do I think I need one?? It takes me time to learn a new track, and to work out what gear is best for each corner... Take Mallory for instance... If I haven't ridden Mallory for a while I'll tip into Gerrards in 4th, and then later in the day when my pace is up I'll enter it in 5th... So depending on how I did the hairpin, chicane and the following left-hander I'll be arriving at Gerrards in 5th or 6th, and want to come down either 1, 2 or no gears. I often find myself hooking into 6th, just to then count the gears down to 5th or 4th... I think that having a gear indicator will help and give me one thing less to think about... I've done 15,000 miles and about 30 track days on the 748 without one; but I wish it had one, so the 848 will get one; rather surprised that it didn't come as standard... I don't need a slipper clutch either, but have grown to like them... Bob
Some just need a little help now and again. Whats wrong with that? On a trackday, and I am a novice, when you barrel towards a corner, inexperienced, getting your line right, your braking etc, sometimes you may have gone down a gear too many. Better to know before you release the clutch and ruin your line. That said, I am not too sure about the reliability of these units. I hear a lot of moans about them being a tad slow.
I like them. They work and are useful when trying to find neutral! And I think they look cool :biggrin:
1. Im old and the memory aint what it was lol 2. It helps when you are learning a new track. 3. It aids consistency on track. 4. It's my money and I wanted one.lol
They can get caught out if you want a very fast indicator that never gets caught then they are probably not for you. I use it on the road and it just helps me stop trying to hook into 7th, from time to time. Not everybody rags the bike to the red line before shifting. I usually have a good idea of what gear I'm in but occasionally get caught out & its an aid, not an absolute must have. I use it a lot more than the shift lights. Nobody complains about shift lights yet surely your rev counter tells you when to shift, just another aid. Whenever anybody asks about them in wade the "I can count to six" brigade. Well I'm not that bright and on the old forum a lot of people wanted them (a lot more than the POS lap software). They install them on nearly all competition machinery, car and bike, that have sequential boxes too. It's not compulsory to use them FFS Just saying John
My GIPro DS turned up today. Fitted in minutes as just connects into data port under rear seat. (John, I think you must have a different version to me...) Bike still getting stripped for track duty so have not been out to calibrated it yet... However, not sure if I just popped the bike on the abba stand and let the rear wheel spin as I go through the gears, whether that would work... Can't see why not?? Discuss ?? :smile: Cheers, Bob
Bob Yes you can as I recall that's how I did mine. When you do it make sure its solid on the stand of course and your chain is not too loose as it will sound pretty horrendous with no load to counteract backlash. I heard about a new version that used the OBD port, guess that's what you get now, a helluva site easier than having to run the wires I guess, nice John
Does it just plug straight into the DDA port and then it's a quick setup to get it to find the gears? Is that all there is to do? I'd need to run the cable neatly but that can't be too bad. My GSXR had an indicator as standard and as soon as I rode a bike without one I missed it. It just gave me a wee bit of reassurance and I generally found it useful to have. I wondered for years why bikes didn't have one and then they started appearing as OE then were quickly on all sorts of bikes. Why a bike with a dash like the 848 and 1098/1198 didn't just included one is beyond me. Where's the best / cheapest place to get one of these (new)? Andy
I was debating getting one except for two reasons. 1. They look a bit ugly compared to the rest of the display, you'd think they'd make a cover that matches the Superbike series. 2. My Audi had a gear indicator built in and it's a bit slow so it doesn't know where you are until you release the clutch (in which case you know your in the right or wrong gear at that point). Do they all work off the signal of speed and revs?
