I am selling my 916 to get 'more&less' (more power, less weight, more brake power, less riding position issues etc. etc.) and I am looking for something newer but not insanely expensive. I don't tune the shit out of my bikes and I want something dependable that doesn't crash the engine. There are a number of 999's selling at fair prices, the cheaper ones standard 999 and the more expensive ones 999S or 999R models with prices close to 848. I think I will want the upgraded shocks and fork on the S/R models. So - any comments on the differences? I am not up there with the fastest but getting slowly better after 4 years of track racing on still faster bikes (Yamaha 660 Super mono, Ducati 900SS, Ducati 916). thanks JimR
Yeah, I'm looking at 1098 too even if the power scares me a bit. I know that will go away within a couple of laps when you need those last 30 hp at the straight Jim
848 I'd say, purely as its got enough power for most tracks but is more fun to ride than the big torquey motors imho but then I raced old Monsters with no power or torq so ragging it is what I like best
....old ladies who prefer ability over power...and giving young upstarts with 180hp a nose bleed with only 60 ;-)
I've owned a 999S and a 999R for track work. Both cracking bikes but the R was effin sublime (2006). I've got a 1098R now which is barking. I'm still getting the hang of it right now but I was quicker on the 999R with 40 BHP less! I know, I know- I'm riding the 1098R like a proper fanny but at first it scared the be'jesus out of me. I wish I could of hung on to my 999R but you can't have everything... Doh! Get one!!!
Thanks, my best bets at the moment is either a 999 or 848, I have offers on a nice 999R and a fine 848, both trackready and at about the same price. I am tempted by the lesser weight, the 'easier to control power' and newer 848. The 1098 is out, too many HP's for me at the moment. I will need a few years experience more before upgrading to 150+HP Jim
Get the 999R then, it will hold it's money better than the un-special 848. You will also be in posession of a great machine.
Ahhh so what you're really saying is buy a "nice" bike rather than a "fine" bike for it to depreciate less. Nice one :wink:
848 for track days , mainly because they are still raced at national level so there's lots of stuff about for them . Lap time wise you'd need a pretty special 999 to match a 848 , just check out the times posted by the 848 challenge boys (and girl !) . Our evo produced 138-140 bhp at the rear wheel with end cans and dialled in cams , and did two seasons with no problems .
Umm - I got a really good offer on a 999S deep sump, pretty new engine (with lightened flywheel) in an otherwise standard 999 frame and I accepted as it was about half the price of an 848 trackbike. The downside is that I will get it late in april and I wanted a bike NOW, just because I like to look at it and poke around in it for a couple of months before the racing season starts. Anyway, even a standard 999 will be a nice step up from the 916, I guess I can start saving for a better rear shock, rain wheels, quickshift, a couple of tire sets and tire changing/balancing tools. The good thing is that the slipper clutch I bought for the 916 fits the 999. Jim