Need input on how to set the suspension correctly on my MTS 1200 Pikes Peak -17. I am a 113 kg man, without clothes My driving equipment weighs 12 kg, so the total weight is 125 kg From S (soft) to H (hard) I can turn 17 full rounds, clockwise What would be a recommended setting, without packing or passengers?
A little lighter (not much), but had mine set up professionally, and mines fully wound to hard. Suspension tech reckoned it could do with more, but required removal of the shock. That's for sag only, then youv'e got the rebound and compression. Play around, or get someone that understands the dark art of suspension to help. And make sure you put your clothes on before yo go out to test..............
You want to aim for around 35 - 50mm of rider sag (with and without you on bike). Good starting point
Pre load, compression and rebound can each give you a nasty ride when set incorrectly on their own and a really horrible ride if they're all out. You've pictured the pre load adjuster, the compression and rebound can be accessed under the seat. getting a pro to do it will also balance the front with the rear and should get you in the ball park a lot quicker than trial and error if your unsure of what's what. TB
Search this forum for SAG. Read this. and sedarch Youtube for Dave Moss https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/what-is-suspension-sag.77820/ Rex
According to the 1260's owners manual, the maximum allowed weight (carrying full load): 992 lb (450 kg). The wet weight of the bike (with empty luggage) is approximately 550 lb. The maximum weight permitted for the side panniers, top case and the tank bag must never exceed 66 lb (30 kg), divided as follows: 22 lb (10 kg) max. per side pannier (1); 11 lb (5 kg) max. for the top case (2); 11 lb (5 kg) max. for the tank bag (3). Let's add this up. Bike: 550 lb Rider: 275 lb Luggage content: 66 lb = 891 lb Your passenger should not weight more than 101 lb in full gear. However, Pirelli's maximum load capacity should never exceed 851 lb (387 kg). Consequently, you're already exceeding the maximum load capacity without a passenger. Don't kill the messenger but you may want to consider these charts.
This. But google whether the Multi is different, as it being longer travel I dont know if that affects rear and front sag measurements I'm similar and set from to rider 40mm and rear rider 25mm for road. Bike dependent, 20mm rear.
I understand that this is a science of its own. I will contact competent help so that this is done correctly. After all, it's not just about extracting the potential from suspension components, but also about safety. Here I do not compromise. Thanks for the help guys
BUT Until that happens... educate yourself. You will be better prepared to determine who is actually competent and perhaps make a comfort/safety improvement until then Rex
Agree with Rex. Use the links, they are good resources, have a play about. It is easier with two pairs of hands tho!
The reason why the rear preload adjuster is in an easy to use position is because you are supposed to use it! Setting preload for no passenger, passenger, full pannier kit etc should be done before you set off to optimise your experience. So learning the basics of setting sag is advisable Setting up suspension really is not that big of a dark art. Please see the attached article i sourced somewhere ages ago. Best guide i have seen so far bar some of the more detailed video's from Dave Moss and others where you have to be a member to see etc.
You deffo need to have the suspension setup by somebody who knows the dark art! Thankfully with the help of my brothers best man at one of his weddings, who just happened to be an amazing spannerman who has frequented the paddocks of GP's BSB etc, he set my Marzocchi/Sachs for fat bastard mode. Transformation was chalk and cheese, she is so sure footed now, confidence inspiring. Cost me a lot though, pub dinner and a couple of sherbets. God bless ya Derek.
No point setting the rear if you don't also adjust the front. The "sag" measurement is the front and rear of the bike moving down and up horizontally at the same rate of movement. Compression and rebound is to accommodate your weight and riding style. Throw in tyre pressures as well, they are also part of your suspension package. For road use air temperature will not affect you much, but be aware of it if you go south and the temperature is 30+ or North in winter and it is zero or lower.
I paid £50 for mine to be adjusted with me hopping off and on the bike. Ride in service over at Braintree. It was a revelation afterwards.
