As above really, has anyone fitted them to their MTS? I hate the bracketry used by Touratech so am considering a crash bar mounted solution so was wondering if any extra considerations need to be made because of the canbus system?
I mounted some first gen Denali LEDs to my '11 MTS 1200. I made my own brackets because I agree - the commercially available ones look terrible. On my bike I mounted them here: And here is a link to the whole gallery: MTS-Denai-LED-Lights - desmodab's Photos I fabricated L brackets to mount them. Note that there is not much room for them to fit inside the fairing and also have room for the forks when turned to full lock, so the dimensions took a bit of experimenting. If interested PM me and I'll post the dimensions of mine. Also note that I mounted mine adjacent to the rubber grommet on the outside so as not to interfere with the radiator mounts because I read that the original SW Motech brackets (now discontinued) that were mounted to the lower rad brackets possibly caused cracking. Mine have been on over a year with no issues. Hope it helps, DD
It's a neat solution. It's the wiring that most bothers me to be honest. I'm probably going to get some Motech Hawks and mount them to my crash bars but I'm concerned about the canbus system. I'd want a system that switches off with the ignition so they can't be left on so that rules out wiring directly to the battery and through a fuse.
OK, bought a Fuzeblock FZ-1 switched supply fuseblock to get the ball rolling. Just looking for the right lights and kit to mount them now.
Found the lights, I'm fitting 1600 lumen CREE lamps. 55mm diameter, 66mm length in black. Going to make a loom using good quality wire, a waterproof illuminated switch and braided cable sleeve. I'll do a "How to" as I'm doing it.
I used a Skene Design IQ170 lighting controller: Skene Design Motorcycle Visibility Lights This accomplished 2 things for me: 1. It's "main" supply is wired directly to the battery but it has an additional switched lead which I wired to one of the side 12V outlets (which turns the IQ170 on when the key is on, and off when it's off. This makes it so the lights can never be left on when the key is off). 2. The light's brightness is controlled by a 3 position handlebar switch (OFF, 50%, 100%). These are easily programmable and what I chose since I wanted the ability to turn the LEDs off completely while riding, run them at 50% (at night) or full power during the day. RE: CAN Bus I have had no issues. The Ducati CAN system is better than the BMW (IMO) because it isolates the bike into essentially 2 circuits - a CAN side and non-CAN side. The side outlets, signal lights, brake light and accessories are regular 12V non-CAN whereas the engine controls, TPS, etc are CAN. Have a look at the wiring diagram. It was really very easy to wire and I highly recommend Skene Design's products. Whether you use the IQ170 or not you should not have any CAN issues if you power them from the battery and switch the relay from the side outlets. Someone asked me what the Flash2Pass unit is that is pictured in one of my photos. It is a controller that remotely opens my garage door when I flash my headlight hi-beams twice. (My wife got tired of the floggings... :tongue: (actually it was a gift from a friend)) Open your garage door with your SmartPhone or headlight highbeam Flash2Pass Hope it helps, DD
I have Hid headlights and 4 LED spots, see my earlier posts for full details and pictures, may give you an idea where to mount and what the spots look like mounted, list no 5 on posts if linky doesnt work. http://ducatiforum.co.uk/f6/spots-my-multi-320/
Thanks guys. I'm going to mount my spots on my crash bars. Desmo, you say a 3 way switch, did you use a toggle switch or did you find a more "elegant" solution? I'm going to try and make mine as neat as possible so I'll try and get a switch integrated into the fairing that illuminates when the lights are on. With that Fuze box I'll be able to run several accessories that will be switched. I'll be taking pos and neg from the battery and a switched supply to power the relay from one of the power sockets. I wonder if I could incorporate a Skene box as well as 1600 lumen lights are very bright and it would be good to be able to dim them during the night. Where did you get your IQ from Desmo? Was it from them directly? Thanks both.
Hi triple, Yes I got the IQ170 from Skene directly. They are great. The owner (Jerry) is a great guy, very helpful (once spent an hour on the phone with me helping me figure out another manufacturer's switch for my old bike). RE:what switch I used, on his IQ170 page (I posted the link above) he mentions a couple of switching options and gives the manufacturer and part number for the switches he describes. I chose the 3 position option and ordered the Trailtech handlebar mounted switch (PN 040-HB5-05). This image is from his site: Have a look through the links from his page - I think you'll find everything you need there. I highly recommend the IQ170 (and his IQ150 too...) Hope it helps, DD
Thanks very much. I've ordered the Skene IQ 170 earlier today and willorder that handlebar switch now. Do you have a pic of it mounted on your bars by chance? I'm running the Skene from the Fuze unit so it will be switched with the ignition
I'm not at home right now (in Mexico on vacation) but when I get home this weekend I'll take a pic of the handlebar switch and post it. DD
All finished. If I knew before I started what I knew now I probably wouldn't have bothered with this!! Still, it was an excercise in patience as I was determined to do it as best as I could, soldering every joint, hiding wires, looming others etc, etc. Probably took me 12 hours in all, if I had just slapped it all in and used crimps them it may have taken 5 or 6. I used a Skene IQ170 controller, a Trailtech 3 position switch and a switched distribution board from Nippy Normans. The lights came from Hong Kong and are 1600 lumen each. They are the same ones selling for £150+++ yet cost just £80. When I finally get everything rebuilt and everything adjusted and programmed correctly I'll post some pics.
Sounds good triple - definitely a lot of work but nice final solution and doing the wiring "properly" (soldering, neatly, looming" takes time but on such a beautiful machine I wouldn't have it any other way... Cheers, DD
Just some pics I took whilst doing the job. For some reason they've appeared in reverse order. I should also point out that the bike is now spotless, I'm guilty of putting it away fly splattered from last year LOL. The lights stay off with the switch in the lowest position, I've programmed them to 60% in the middle and 100% in the upper position. They also flash with main beam and come on at 100% with main beam.
Went to the London show and checked out the Multi Gran Tourismo thing with the Ducati fogs fitted as standard. Any idea if they need brackets? As Mark on the stand didn't know and that was after showing me them in the book he had. £285 for the pair (including bar switch). So for that price I hope they do. My local dealer didn't know either! If I get them next month I'll have a set of Hawk lights plus 27mm clamps going on flea bay.
I visited the factory on Friday. This day they were making MTS GT`s, so I got to study tons of them without the fairing on. The DP fog light`s are mounted onto the top frame bracket`s for the radiator. The electrical connection is done with a "Y-split" to the GPS el-connector under the left side of the tank. The switching is done with a nice switch between the left mirror and switchgear
